Talk:Brave Bunnies

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 17:07, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

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• ... that European broadcasters waived their rights to Brave Bunnies so that the children's series could be streamed ad-free in Ukrainian for refugees?

• Source: Marian McHugh, Broadcast "Go Jetters helps launch Ukrainian-language YouTube channel", 16 June 2022, ProQuest 2677615627. Quote: "A YouTube channel dedicated to entertaining Ukrainian children displaced by the war is to launch on 1 July [2022] ... offer pre-school and primary school-aged refugee children across the UK and Europe entertainment in their own language and will also house shows from Ukrainian producers, including Brave Bunnies ... The ad-free YouTube channel ... Everyone involved has given up their time and rights to their content for nothing ... It really shows that the creative industries can be a force for good." Also Connie Evans, The Herald (Glasgow) "YouTube's channel for Ukraine", 17 June 2022, ProQuest 2677284195. Quote: "A non-profit YouTube channel created specifically for Ukrainian children displaced by the war is set to launch ... shows by Ukrainian producers with titles such as Brave Bunnies".

• • ALT1: ... that weeks after production of Brave Bunnies was suspended due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine, its production coordinator had become a war correspondent? Source: Natalia Yermak, New York Times "A Cartoon Producer Turned War Reporter: Times Insider", 1 June 2022, ProQuest 2671841726. Quote: "the day before the Russian invasion began. I was working as a production coordinator at a company that produced a Ukrainian cartoon series for children called "Brave Bunnies." ... The “Brave Bunnies” team decided to put production on hold ... I started collecting and documenting stories as a form of volunteerism; I wanted to help share information about the war. Colleagues and friends connected me with various news media outlets. Soon, I was presented with an opportunity to work with The New York Times. ... About a month after my unexpected last day at "Brave Bunnies," I became a member of a team"
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Musalla Complex
  • Additional Reviewed to add Sunflower TV to nom: Ein Danklied sei dem Herrn + Phenotypic disparity

Created by Reidgreg (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 28 past nominations.

Reidgreg (talk) 19:57, 18 April 2025 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Looks good to go, ALT0 is interesting and a well-formatted hook. AGF on the paywalled source. SounderBruce 04:03, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Reopened per WT:DYK.--Launchballer 17:33, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: Thanks for reopening this! @SounderBruce and Gatoclass: Per above, there was a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Brave Bunnies (not sure how to permalink this before it is archived) in which Gatoclass objected to the hook, feeling that the hook fact was only weakly supported by the article/sources. Gatoclass later suggested that I write a secondary article, which I have done at Sunflower TV (2600 characters prose). I don't know where to take the nomination from here. Gatoclass, what was your idea for a double nomination? (I can provide additional QPQ as needed.) – Reidgreg (talk) 15:50, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

Apologies Reidgreg, I meant to get back to this today and clean forgot - unfortunately it will have to wait until tomorrow now. But I'm very pleased to read that you've added the second article! - it sounds like a very worthwhile topic and I look forward to reading it :) Gatoclass (talk) 15:58, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

You need to supply a hook with both articles boldlinked and to provide two QPQs, as we are in backlog mode.--Launchballer 17:21, 22 May 2025 (UTC)

@Reidgreg:, having read through some more of the sources, it appears that only content from the United Kingdom and Ukraine was broadcast. And the rights waiving appears to be from British broadcasters waiving rights to their own programs (see, for example, this source). That means the existing hook won't work. But a new hook is needed regardless in order to fit in the new Sunflower TV article, would you like to propose an alt or two for that? Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 11:14, 25 May 2025 (UTC)

Sources say the initial content was UK and Ukrainian, though more may have been added, and even children's shows are increasingly becoming multinational productions. I may have taken too broadly the statement "Everyone involved has given up their time and rights to their content" in the context of the list of 20 companies named by Broadcast Magazine ProQuest 2677615627 and BBC Studios which 'leant support'. (Checking their Wikipedia articles these include: A UK studio, a UK programming block, 5 UK producer/broadcasters, 2 UK multinational producer/distributors, a Ukrainian multinational producer/distributor, a Ukrainian producer, a Ukrainian producer/broadcaster, a French multinational producer/distributor, a Canadian multinational producer/distributor, and 4 US multinational entertainment companies.) Granted, 'lending support' is not the same as 'waiving rights'; some of these companies apparently donated manpower, technical knowhow and other resources to set up the channel.

Struck ALT0 and added 2 QPQ to nom. Proposing ALT2. – Reidgreg (talk) 14:26, 27 May 2025 (UTC)

• ALT2: ... that Brave Bunnies was among the Ukrainian children's series streamed ad-free on Sunflower TV for Ukrainian refugees across Europe, the United Kingdom and Ukraine?
• ALT2a: ... that Brave Bunnies was among the Ukrainian children's series streamed ad-free on Sunflower TV for Ukrainian refugees? Source for both: Marian McHugh, Broadcast at ProQuest 2677615627, available via the Wikipedia Library. Quote: "Sunflower TV ... to offer pre-school and primary school-aged refugee children across the UK and Europe entertainment in their own language and will also house shows from Ukrainian producers, including Brave Bunnies ... The ad-free YouTube channel".

  @Gatoclass and SounderBruce: Do either of you have time to review the second article and new hooks? – Reidgreg (talk) 23:30, 2 June 2025 (UTC)

  New Review Needed for Sunflower TV, ATL2 and ALT2a. – Reidgreg (talk) 21:42, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: Long enough, new enough. Big dislike on using QPQs that old, but it's within the rules so I'll take them, and Earwig has no complaints. I see no reason Sunflower TV would deserve a maintenance template, though perhaps it could use an infobox. Per WP:DYKCITE, I must ask for a quote from the source before I can approve this.--Launchballer 01:02, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Okay, provided quote above with hooks, adjusted the location of the citation to sentence level. – Reidgreg (talk) 17:39, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: Sorry for the delay in replying, but I don't see what part of the quote mentions Sunflower TV by name.--Launchballer 14:02, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

@Launchballer: Underlined Sunflower TV in quote. There's a lot of ellipsis, as I tried to make minimal use (assuming Fair Use applies to talk pages) but I assure you that the cited magazine article is definitely talking about Sunflower TV which is mentioned by name four times. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:47, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

Apologies for not seeing that, let's roll.--Launchballer 16:30, 18 June 2025 (UTC)

20-minute assessment

I've requested a quick assessment from WIG, in part to see if this article would qualify under "women's works". The series creator, creative director and art director are women. Otherwise, I'm pretty satisfied with the article, given available sources, but wouldn't mind any advice moving toward GAN. – Reidgreg (talk) 02:26, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: This would definitely qualify as a women's work if the creator is a woman. Here's a 20-minute assessment:

• Why is the original Ukrainian name in all-capital letters? Is it stylised that way originally? If so, why isn't the English translation also stylised in all-caps?

  Fixed title case: ХОРОБРІ ЗАЙЦІ → Хоробрі Зайці

• "As the bus stops at a new location, [...]" Perhaps it should be "Each time the bus stops [...]"?

  I tried merging that clause into the previous sentence.

• "The writing team consulted with child psychologists" Is there anything else that could be added about this?

  Good call. Expanded: Cherepanova was educated in psychology, and the writing team consulted with child psychologists throughout the process. They sought to maintain the interest of young children, present stories that would aid early socialization, and create characters representing the many different human personality types. (This is covered by the extant sources).

• "Production resumed in August" Where did production resume if they had to flee Kyiv?

  I didn't have a lot of detail on this. My only source is an interview with the creator who said that work resumed six months after the invasion. I don't know if they were able to return to their offices, find new offices, or teleconference from different locations in Ukraine and abroad. Three-four months after that WildBrain joined the production... which suggests to me that they may not have been in full-scale production until then, for whatever reasons.

• Merge the sentence about the focus group into the previous paragraph, per the manual of style on paragraphs.

  Done.

• Is there more that can be added on the books and merchandising? If not, it might be worth merging this into another section, as it is currently an extremely short section.

  If merging it, the article would end up with a section header like "Reception and merchandising" which I think would be more awkward and surprising than the short section. I'll see if I can plump it up a bit without becoming too promotional. (Addendum) I was able to add a bit more; it's still a short section but doesn't look weirdly short.

Overall, I think this is a very well-written and interesting article. My comments on this are relatively minor. With some extra clarity and a bit more expansion (if possible), I think this would be ready for a good article nomination. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:36, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

@Grnrchst: much thanks for the assessment, I feel this will make GAN go a bit smoother. I've taken care of the easy fixes and will look a little further for expansions. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:08, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Brave Bunnies/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Reidgreg (talk · contribs) 15:38, 12 May 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Reconrabbit (talk · contribs) 17:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi. I am interested in a few select things that inevitably led to this review. Hope to give it a good look as I am not as well versed in television show reviews, but this is not my first one. Let me know if anything is clearly out of line here, thanks for nominating this. I also saw Reidgreg's assessment from a week or two back which is a good sign. If this does pass (which it looks like it will) I might take up the DYK nomination to save effort overall. -- Reconrabbit 17:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for taking up the review, Reconrabbit! I'm going to be off-wiki for a couple days, FYI, but will try to quickly respond to your initial comments now. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

No worries. I tend to be less active in the coming days anyway. I won't be done with the review for a bit. -- Reconrabbit 20:33, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

@Reidgreg: I'm done, and have a couple things to note below. Some information is missing from sources cited. -- Reconrabbit 19:10, 21 May 2025 (UTC)

@Reconrabbit: Okay, I think that's it. Thanks again for your thorough review! – Reidgreg (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

Prose

• Bunny Babies why is this specifically capitalized?

  Good question. Normally, we treat things as proper nouns when sources treat them as proper nouns. I only have the one source for this (English-language) but it's probably taking that from a press release and I could see the capitalization going either way. (Connected sources AppleTV, Prime Video, Hoopla capitalize it, sometimes with hyphenation.) The four babies don't seem to have individual names (perhaps in 'bunny culture' they don't name the members of a litter until they get to a certain age...?) and are treated as a group, which makes it a little more proper-nouny. However, it'd probably be best to go with lower case if you think that would be less surprising for readers. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

• Meets requirements for Manual of Style (in layout, etc.) and relevant points of this fairly short article are summarized in the lead.
• I can imagine listing every single episode would be a tedious and unhelpful task, which is probably better relegated to List of Brave Bunnies episodes or similar (not endorsing that this should exist), so no demerits there

  They're seven minute episodes to fit preschooler attention span, so individual episode summaries would be one-liners: they befriend a raccoon who doesn't like to follow the rules; they befriend an elephant who is shy around new things. I agree that the series synopsis better serves the reader. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

• Dates for when the books and other media were published would be helpful (when the books were first distributed)?

  Source 15, Ukrinform, has "It is also reported that work is underway on an Italian edition of the Brave Bunnies books – DeA Planeta Libri will be the first publisher in the world to release books based on this popular series. The first six books will be released by the end of summer 2021, with additional releases planned for 2022." (I'll use this to rephrase the sentence following the yellow-X statement from source 9, below.) [Addendum: now done.]

  Source 3 Animation Magazine and source 2 Animation World Network both have the following, taken word-for-word from a press release (source 5): The brand’s [Brave Bunnies IP] publishing program has seen its first books debut in Italy from publisher Planeta Libre, an imprint of De Agostini, who are also co-producers of the animated series; in Australia from Five Mile Publishing; and in the UK from Ladybird, an imprint of Penguin Random House."

  Source 13 New Voice of Ukraine has: [Fact 6] Glowberry ... was originally a publishing house and published illustrated books ... Glowberry developed the first interactive application in Eastern Europe, and the books became popular among tablet users. And [Fact 8] Based on the series, Penguin Random House ... has released several books. In 2021, three books were published in Italy ... After the success on television, one of the leading publishers in Australia also published several activity books based on the [Brave Bunnies].

  Source 10, Media for Creators (interview). At first there was a book about the journey of the Brave Bunnies family. ... Among other wonderful books, we developed a picture book about a family of bunnies and their children going on a journey, and the further they get from home, the more unusual animals they encounter. The book's circulation immediately skyrocketed. It then took several years to turn a five-page book into a 100-episode series.

  My take on all of this is that there were digital Brave Bunnies books which were distributed via tablet, and the first physical books didn't come until the Italian editions in 2021 (I've added the year to the article).

  Also, I listed two English-language books I could find under Books and merchandising. I also found pictures of the covers of I think 22 Ukrainian-language books... but I don't know how to transcribe/type their Cyrillic titles. – Reidgreg (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

  Your efforts here are appreciated, it's not part of these criteria to translate the titles. -- Reconrabbit 13:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

  As I'm sure you've seen, I added a substantial list of BB publications that I could find. (I found the ISBN numbers from which I could search for Cyrillic titles to copy and paste.) Conspicuously absent are the Italian books, which I haven't yet found. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

References

• Layout: No explicit problems, but I did change it from using {{reflist}} to <references> just because the latter makes it possible to view the list-defined references while using visual editor. Y whether you keep it like this or not

  I was unaware of that issue or its fix. Thanks! (Come to think of it, I remember being told to use templates whenever possible because they're supposed to be more 'portable'. Maybe not in this case!) – Reidgreg (talk) 19:46, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

  I only found out about this due to an argument (I forget where) that had the main point of contention being that reflist and references produced the same reader output, but one worked in visual editor and the other didn't. It's been a great help for me, since I switch between the two often and use visual editor for copyediting. -- Reconrabbit 20:33, 16 May 2025 (UTC)

Spot checking

Based on this revision:

• [1] Y
• [4] Y
• [5] Y press release, but texts are about self/backed up by secondary sources
• [6] Interesting translation, but checks out Y
• [9] Y Does not discuss Brave Bunnies at all (only other books published through the app)

  This might have been a bit of WP:SYNTH. What if I changed it to "Glowberry first distributed its books through the company's tablet app." then mention Brave Bunnies books in the next sentence? – Reidgreg (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

  Makes sense. That represents the source and allows a reader to connect the dots. -- Reconrabbit 13:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

  Done.

• [11] Y I suppose "reliable" production is implied
• [14] Y
• [16] Y
• [20] Y
• [21] Y
• [24] N This just says the second season will premiere "soon", and the current version of the news article has no obvious date of publication.

  Thanks for catching my laziness on this. Here's what I dug up in sources:

  Source 24, Todo TV News, has 01/12/2023 under the title in the picture. (Other pages on the website indicate they use dmy dates.) The piece covers an announcement of international sales for the show and says "The announcement coincides with the launch of a second series season". That seems to be where I got December 2023 from. This source is from Uruguay.

  Source 19, Kidscreen, has "Brave Bunnies, which just rolled out a second season in June" [2023]. This source is from Canada.

  Marie Claire magazine (Ukraine) (link), a source I didn't use (mainly an interview repeating information found elsewhere) has "The second season started on February 29." [2024].

  The three sources have conflicting dates. The explanation which sits easiest with me is that they're talking about the second season's release in their home territory. In that case, should we go with Kidscreen and assume Canada had the earliest release date, since WildBrain is Canada-based and was the majority shareholder at that time? – Reidgreg (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

  Using the earliest release date makes sense. -- Reconrabbit 13:55, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

• Done.

• No evident copyright violations/copied and pasted fragments, it's clear that effort was made to describe the sources in wiki voice.

Scope

• Broad: History of production and release, premise of the show, and cast details are provided.

  I wish that I had more cast details from a reliable source. I found a source that has a lot more cast info, but anyone can edit it so it's unreliable. – Reidgreg (talk) 00:26, 23 May 2025 (UTC)

• Narrow: Where coverage exists/is warranted, details are provided on production (especially during wartime), music, release, and related products, beyond the typically expected details of this type of subject.

Stability

• Neutrality: Flat descriptions (following neutral point of view in description of events), no obvious biases in text.
• Edit warring: No major edits from anyone other than nominator - no instability
  • An IP account created in April has been making some negative cosmetic edits with the cryptic edit summary "Lev Fisyanchuk". I'm going to revert them and leave a not on the IP's talk page. – Reidgreg (talk) 16:26, 19 May 2025 (UTC)
    • Noted, it's just one person anyway that isn't really impacting the state of the article. Even if it went to WP:AN3 I would just wait a week to promote, maybe. It's no problem. -- Reconrabbit 20:03, 19 May 2025 (UTC)

Images

• Free/Fair use: Fair use rationale complete for downsized poster
• Relevance: Only one image, represents the subject.

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

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