Talk:Benjamin Doyle

Please explain

Kiwiz1338, I did not understand your edit summary: let's not reinvent the wheel. What exactly did you mean by that? Did you remove the content because it was unreferenced? I've added the pronouns used, including a reference for it, to the Wikidata item. Any objection to reinstating the content and adding that reference? Schwede66 02:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

@Schwede66 Sure, add it. But the article should refer to him as he, for consistency. I don't see the point in they when he can be used. Kiwiz1338 (talk) 04:58, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Schwede66 05:01, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Generally when multiple pronouns are given, it is the first one listed that is preferred. All the media articles have taken this on board, as well as official Green Party statements. The pronouns should be changed back to they/them. It comes across as transphobic to default to a binary pronoun just because you think it's easier. 203.211.77.22 (talk) 05:58, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

If reliable sources mostly use they/them, so should Wikipedia. Schwede66 18:02, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

This article from October 25, 2024 states that they are non-binary and refer to Benjamin with exclusively they/them pronouns - https://www.teaonews.co.nz/2024/10/25/exclusive-meet-benjamin-doyle-the-green-partys-newest-mp/?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZohUO8bDVPqYPwSbFk-T-u-QHoGeaP-iu6ID5WitdQwU6X1RS7L6r6qRE_aem_JUvFK-VogMOOXhf39o7Adw 2404:4402:3A54:7400:8B8:EB1:23B3:8ABE (talk) 01:35, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Sorry, I managed to restore the wrong version after some vandalism. Schwede66 04:20, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2024

Correct age and DOB to 32 and 1992. This source states Benjamin’s age in 2023 as 32 - https://policy.nz/2023/hamilton-west-electorate/candidates/benjamin-doyle.

Benjamin does not use the name Cody as per their publications seen here, where they use the name Benjamin Kauri Doyle, as at 2024 - https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Benjamin-Doyle 2404:4402:3A54:7400:206F:F08B:9C09:5E55 (talk) 09:09, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Correction: the article stated their age as 31 in 2023. So Benjamin’s current age is 32 - https://policy.nz/2023/hamilton-west-electorate/candidates/benjamin-doyle 2404:4402:3A54:7400:206F:F08B:9C09:5E55 (talk) 09:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

 Not done

• Age: The Policy.nz page was published sometime before the 2023 general election. It is likely that Doyle was 31 when the page was published and turned 32 later in 2023, turning 33 before the source was published in October 2024.
• Name The middle name of Cody is sourced from the Gazette notice, which uses people's legal names. Adabow (talk) 22:40, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Age

Correct age: This article states that Benjamin is 32 years old, as of October 23, 2024. The author had corrected the age they previously stated which this Wikipedia page has based their dob on.

https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/23-10-2024/who-is-benjamin-doyle-the-soon-to-be-green-mp-replacing-darleen-tana#8892 43.224.122.161 (talk) 01:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for letting us know. I've updated the article accordingly. Schwede66 02:24, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Misinformation

Why does it claim that @biblebeltbussy's instagram account was a "private Instagram account"? It was public and easily accessible to anyone, and had over 1,000 followers before going on hiatus. Wygelij12 (talk) 01:29, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

I think that's a case of using the wrong word. I assume that whoever wrote this referred to their personal account, as opposed to their official (i.e. MP) account. Would that address your concerns? Schwede66 01:37, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

yes, it was personal but open 115.189.93.215 (talk) 03:41, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

I've implemented that and replaced "private" with "personal" in all three instances. Schwede66 06:06, 3 April 2025 (UTC)

Bussy controversy

While this topic got a lot of media attention last week, do we really think his usage of "bussy" on social media will be of sufficient long-term importance to justify being the longest section of the article, with longer and more in-depth coverage than Judith Collins' scandal of leaking PPI to a blogger, or Todd Barclay's secret recording and hush money scandal?

Seems to run contrary WP:RECENT. I think it could stand to be cut down to a few sentences at most, rather than the current form which dedicates 80% of the coverage to the reactions of other politicians. 2407:7000:859A:B300:30E9:F252:2701:9E9C (talk) 11:24, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Yes, cutting back on that would seem appropriate. Please feel free to have a go. Schwede66 14:03, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

Agreed, run of the mill news story. Traumnovelle (talk) 20:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

After giving the news story time to settle I've cut the section back to focus on the substantive claims, and cut back on the political theatre surrounding the controversy. I welcome any input or suggestions, of course. 2407:7000:859A:B300:4570:5C95:5E:C208 (talk) 02:24, 3 May 2025 (UTC)

I approve of the edit. (I cannot thank IP editors) Traumnovelle (talk) 07:12, 3 May 2025 (UTC)