Talk:Barsinia

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• ... that all 12 human tooth samples from late antique Barsinia, Jordan, matched local rodent teeth, suggesting the population did not marry outsiders and rarely took in migrants?

• Source: Al-Shorman, Abdulla; El-Khouri, Lamia (2011). "Strontium isotope analysis of human tooth enamel from Barsinia: a late antiquity site in Northern Jordan". Archaeological and Anthropological Sciences. 3: 263–269. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12520-011-0065-0 Abstract: The study comprised 12 right upper third molars and 12 rodent teeth samples. The results confirm that all of the sampled individuals were local to the area (raised in the area) and whose diets were probably obtained from spatially restricted localities in the region. pp. 267–268: The strontium isotope ratios of rodent teeth from the site of Barsinia are used to determine the local strontium isotope values. Any of the 12 individuals is identified as local to the area if the strontium isotope value is within the range of the mean of Barsinia’s rodent signature ±2 standard deviations (Price et al. 2002). The mean of strontium ratio of Barsinia’s rodents is 0.708208 and the standard deviation is 0.000254, yielding a range from 0.707700 to 708716 (2 SD dotted lines in Fig. 4). According to Fig. 4, all of the sampled teeth are local to the area of Barsinia or the nearby northern region. The very low standard deviation among the teeth results indicates that the dietary sources of Barsinia's people might have come from a very limited geographical area, not abroad. ... Consequently, none of the females and/or males was raised outside Barsinia, thus excluding the possibility of exogamy. ... The migration process and/or population dynamics in the late antiquity of northern Jordan might have favored areas other than Barsinia, a site which was socially homogenous as exogamy was excluded.

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Created by Mariamnei (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

Mariamnei ✦ ^{reach out 🕊️} 07:02, 20 July 2026 (UTC).

• Article was created 3 days ago, is well-researched, neutrally written, no copyvio, uses ample literary resources. Could benefit from inclusion of images from the commons where appropriate, given total text length.

Hook is interesting, but examining the paper, the sample of 12 individuals supports excluding exogamy, but not the frequency claim "rarely took in migrants," which the paper does not quantify, stating only that migration favored areas other than Barsinia. Also, "matched local rodent teeth" can read as the human teeth resembling rodent teeth, rather than sharing a local strontium signature.

Could be rewritten as ALT0b: "... that human tooth samples found in Barsinia resembled local rodent teeth, suggesting the population did not marry outsiders?"

Or possibly ALT0c: "... that strontium in the human teeth found in Barsinia matched that of local rodents, indicating that its inhabitants did not marry outsiders?"

Close to ready, will approve pending a final hook choice. Otherwise, awesome work on the article! RabidTuberculosis (talk) 01:40, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

Hi @RabidTuberculosis:, thank you for the thoughtful feedback! Both of your suggestions are actually great, and a big improvement over mine (You're totally right about the frequency claim). If I had to pick, I'd go with ALT0c, since it's a bit more accurate: without mentioning strontium, it'd sound like human teeth are actually similar to rodents', which could be a funny misunderstanding for readers. Better to name the strontium comparison specifically to make it clearer. Mariamnei ✦ ^{reach out 🕊️} 07:05, 22 July 2026 (UTC)

Approved ALT0c, @Mariamnei: appreciate your work! RabidTuberculosis (talk) 17:36, 22 July 2026 (UTC)