Talk:April Masini
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Contested deletion
[edit]This page should not be speedily deleted because I am still working on finding references and reliable sources, both offline and online. I redirected the page back to "User:Gmhayes4/April Masini" to continue editing the page. Thank you. --G|M|Hayes| 06:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
- You are correct that it should not be deleted under G4 or any other speedy criteria. Please continue to improve it if you can. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- I still feel that this article should be deleted as it does not meet notability requirements and the authorship is essentially limited to one paid PR person. My message on the deletion discussion section was meant to be constructive. I'm not questioning the author's ability to construct wikipedia articles written to dot the Is and cross the Ts to avoid deletion.
- If the subject were notable enough on her own, would not fans write the page and contribute along the way? Further, the article has been deleted more than once prior to this - to me more proof demonstrating the subject does not pass the notability test. A poorly written article alone would not justify deletion - just major reworking.
- The question here is A) notability and B) the article contributors. A promotional piece may be written in a way to simply share information about a less than notable subject. I could construct a very well written, factual, and in fact objective article about a teenage babysitter who happens to play the saxophone, won the role of an oak tree in a school play, came in third in a relay race, and shares her feelings on her Facebook page. The quality of the writing, nor the resume of an individual independently nor in sum inherently meet the notability test. Further, there is one primary author here - even to the point she petitioned to keep the page because of the work she put into it. Wikipedia is not intended to be a place to showcase writing ability: it's about the good of the commons and creating something for public benefit. Creating paid pieces to raise awareness of celebrity wannabees does not meet that test. Bromeliad39 (talk) 16:38, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- To avoid G4 speedy deletion, all that is required is that the article be improved from the deleted version in some way. This article fulfills that requirement because it has been rewritten with new references. Notability does not enter into speedy deletion, nor is an (alleged) COI a valid reason in and of itself to delete. (Not does lack of speedy deletion say anything about whether the subject is notable.) Also, previous deletions are very poor evidence of anything as articles are deleted for a wide variety of reasons unrelated to notability. --ThaddeusB (talk) 19:24, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Masini Florida Residence
[edit]April Masini does not live in Naples, Florida. The Lee County Property Appraiser lists her address as follows: 18161 Lagos Way in LEE COUNTY in BONITA SPRINGS. She pays taxes to a number of LEE COUNTY taxing authorities as well as the city of Bonita Springs and Bonita Springs Fire District.
Further, the city of Naples is limited to a small area near the Gulf of Mexico and south of Pine Ridge Road in Collier County. No part of the city of Naples extends north of Pine Ridge Road, nor does any part of it extend to Lee County. Bromeliad39 (talk) 16:32, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- How do you know where she lives, and why is it relevant to the article?GMHayes (talk) 21:36, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- Public records are easily available from an internet search. It's easy to locate where anyone lives, under what taxing authorities they are covered, and in what municipality they live. It is relevant to accuracy of the article, but frankly, the subject of the article isn't notable so this should be moot. However, if the article were to survive the deletion proceedings it should not list a false residence. It's ironic, had you not made the incorrect reference to Naples, I would have never seen this page. Bromeliad39 (talk) 22:08, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's inappropriate to dig through public records to use in a Wikipedia article, per Wikipedia:BLP#Misuse_of_primary_sources. BLP policy is not negotiable. Since the location information was originally unsourced, I've gone ahead and removed it. Feel free to readd location information if you can find a third party source that talks about it; don't use public records. Kevin (kgorman-ucb) (talk) 22:20, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- My most sincere apologies, I was not aware of the BLP policy. It was a point of contention that the subject lives in Naples, Florida when in fact she does not. The fact remains that her property is in Bonita Springs in Lee County, not in the City of Naples. Bromeliad39 (talk) 22:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- It's inappropriate to dig through public records to use in a Wikipedia article, per Wikipedia:BLP#Misuse_of_primary_sources. BLP policy is not negotiable. Since the location information was originally unsourced, I've gone ahead and removed it. Feel free to readd location information if you can find a third party source that talks about it; don't use public records. Kevin (kgorman-ucb) (talk) 22:20, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
- Public records are easily available from an internet search. It's easy to locate where anyone lives, under what taxing authorities they are covered, and in what municipality they live. It is relevant to accuracy of the article, but frankly, the subject of the article isn't notable so this should be moot. However, if the article were to survive the deletion proceedings it should not list a false residence. It's ironic, had you not made the incorrect reference to Naples, I would have never seen this page. Bromeliad39 (talk) 22:08, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
Requested move
[edit]User:Gmhayes4/April Masini → April Masini – I have rewritten this page to emphasize the subject's career as a notable advice columnist. Her opinions have indeed been sought by a wide range of reliable media, including print and television news media such as the NYT, USA Today, Christian Science Monitor, ABC, Fox News, etc. I have checked sources and links and done some searching on the web to make sure the information is accurate. I think the page is ready to be moved to the mainspace.Srelyea (talk) 16:38, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
- Comment - this is out of scope for WP:Requested moves. Please use the Articles for creation process.--ukexpat (talk) 17:37, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you. I have submitted the article for review.Srelyea (talk) 02:19, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
Needs a POV brush-up / tone-down
[edit]This article reads like the woman's personal bio or a cheesy press release. The first half of the details section - the part detailing her dating advice career - especially needs a serious NPOV review because it sounds like it was written by a little boy with a huge crush on her. ♣♦ SmartGuy ♥♠ (talk) 06:13, 22 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SmartGuy (talk • contribs)
- I made some changes to remove possibly biased language. If there are other issues that need to be addressed, please be specific in pointing out the problems.
Srelyea (talk) 16:39, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- Are there any other NPOV issues that need to be taken care of? Discussion seems to have stopped so I can't tell if this is an ongoing issue. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 00:40, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- I'm working on some revisions to reduce the number of references to sources affiliated with the subject. Please note that the page includes many references to third-party sources as well. Srelyea (talk) 20:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- Are there other NPOV or sourcing issues that need to be fixed? If there is no further discussion, the tags should be removed from this page. Srelyea (talk) 14:39, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
For what it's worth, I agree. The entire piece reads like the work of a paid public relations flack -- paid for by April Masini 66.162.249.170 (talk) 02:31, 8 July 2017 (UTC)
Request edit — disambiguation of "Masini" per MOS:SAMESURNAME (BLP accuracy issue)
[edit]| This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
I am April Masini, the subject of this article, so per WP:COI I am requesting corrections here rather than editing directly.
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The problem: This article discusses two different people with the surname Masini — me (the subject) and Al Masini, my former husband, who appears throughout the early part of the article (as co-producer of the 1998 Miss Universe Pageant, in the "Al and April Masini Day" proclamation, and as my former spouse). Despite this, the article refers to me as "Masini" alone in dozens of places. Why this matters: It violates Wikipedia's own style guideline. MOS:SAMESURNAME provides that when multiple people who share a surname are discussed in an article, they should be referred to by first name or full name to avoid ambiguity. It creates factual misattribution on a biography of a living person. Sentences such as "Masini was the first to use Hawaii's newly passed Act 221" and "producers Masini and Adam Fields" describe work in which Al Masini had no involvement whatsoever. On a page where "Al Masini" appears prominently, "Masini" alone makes my documented, cited work ambiguous — a reader cannot reliably tell which Masini is meant. An independent scholarly source resolves the ambiguity by first name. A peer-reviewed Duke University Press article states: "…whose production was brokered by April Masini, also behind Baywatch: Hawaii and bringing the Miss Universe pageants to Hawai'i in 1998—Masini made Blue Crush the first film to exploit then-new special tax breaks designed to draw 'high tech' industry [to] Hawai'i." (Environmental Humanities, vol. 16, no. 1, 2024; publisher: Duke University Press; ISSN 2201-1919; hosted at read.dukeupress.edu: https://read.dukeupress.edu/environmental-humanities/article/16/1/19/386273/ — the journal is indexed in DOAJ and SCImago with Duke University Press listed as publisher). This peer-reviewed source attributes the Blue Crush brokering — and the Act 221 first — to April Masini by name, and does not mention Al Masini at all. Suggested citation, should editors wish to add it: "Blue Crush: Cinema, Oceanic Feeling, and Settler Colonialism". Environmental Humanities. 16 (1). Duke University Press. 2024. ISSN 2201-1919. Requested edit: Throughout the article, refer to the subject as "April Masini" (or "April" where repetition is awkward), and to Al Masini as "Al Masini" (or "Al"), consistent with MOS:SAMESURNAME. This is a style-guideline-compliance and accuracy request only; no content or sourcing changes are requested. One additional error: In the Blue Crush section, the wikilink on "Sylvester" points to Sylvester (singer). The law firm mentioned (Bloom Hergott Diemer) represented Sylvester Stallone, the actor. The link target is incorrect and should point to Sylvester Stallone. Concretely: where "Masini" alone refers to me, please change "Masini" to "April Masini" (or "April"); where it refers to Al Masini, please change it to "Al Masini" (or "Al"); and please change the wikilink Sylvester (singer) to Sylvester Stallone. |
Thank you for your consideration. — April Masini (article subject) AprilMasini (talk) 08:59, 12 July 2026 (UTC)
Reply 26-JUL-2026
[edit]- MOS:SAMESURNAME states
When referring to the person who is the subject of the article, use just the surname
then goes on to give an example when a husband and wife are mentioned in the same sentence with the advice that their first names be used. - The COI editor has not provided an exhaustive, clearly demarcated list of cases in the article where the subject and her ex-husband are mentioned in the same sentence, so only one known instance (the pageant in Hawaii) was corrected. If there are more, please advise in a subsequent edit request (in a list format instead of prose, for brevity).
- The errant H:WIKILINK was deleted.
Regards, Spintendo 20:28, 26 July 2026 (UTC)
- Hi Spintendo,
- Thank you for your kind consideration once more. My former husband, Al Masini, is widely recognized in TV and film as "Masini"; I am known as April and Ask April, making "Masini" ambiguous between us. Per MOS:SAMESURNAME, I request subject clarification in the TV & Film section of the page. Specifically, please add "April" to the first mention of "Masini" in three passages:
- Baywatch: "In 1999, April Masini persuaded Greg Bonann…"
- Pacific Blue: "In 1999, April Masini helped the highly rated cable show, Pacific Blue…"
- Blue Crush: "In 2002, April Masini was the first to use Hawaii's newly…"
- Thank you for lending your time and experience to this article on my behalf — it's genuinely appreciated.
- — April Masini (article subject) ~2026-41716-48 (talk) 08:22, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
Done signed, Willondon (talk) 12:38, 27 July 2026 (UTC)
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I'm connected to the subject, so per WP:COI I'm not editing directly. If I might impose upon you for one last request: I am curious what the reason is for the "Reads Like A Resume" banner on this page. The only thing I can find is an anonymous editor added it in September 2019, with no discussion since. Because, for approximately seven years this banner has created the false impression that I personally wrote this page, seeking employment. I find it upsetting because the reality is the opposite. I brought three productions to Hawaii (Duke University Press [26]) and did not charge Hawaii a penny for any of it. Baywatch [31][33] and Miss Universe [27][28] — the Governor's Official Proclamation of June 4 Masini Day [30] evidences my roles and that I was unpaid. Equally, the Miss Universe official program lists me as co-chair and event coordinator working nearly a year without pay [29]. The same applies to all aspects of Blue Crush, including the cross-promotion between Hawaii and Universal and the perpetual, royalty-free rights granted to Hawaii to use the film's marketing collateral, press kits, trailer, and clips — "basically forever" — all set out in citation [39]. Equally, my 100% completely free relationship advice forum, with 382,897 members — where, as an expert [19][15][24][3], I have answered readers' questions since 2009, with no sponsors, no ads, and nothing for sale. Hence, the impression the banner creates is not reflective of the truth. All citations are on the page, and listed below:
- Duke University Press — peer-reviewed [26]
- BBC — "Looking for extra money? Try downstairs" [19]
- The New York Times — "Its Economy Ailing, Hawaii Hangs Some Hopes on Hollywood" [33]
- The Wall Street Journal — "Do Men Still Have To Pay on the First Date?" [15]
- The Washington Times — "Chief Justice John Roberts and the Right: Six Steps toward Reconciliation" [24]
- Ebony — "Dating, Sex and Single Parenthood" [3]
- Pacific Business News — "Studio Trades Credit for Promos" [39]
- Honolulu Star-Bulletin — "Hawaii Will Be the Real Star of the Pageant" [27]
- Honolulu Star-Bulletin — "Hawaii Landing the Crown Jewel of Pageants Was Like 'Winning the Right to Host the Olympics'" [28]
- Honolulu Star-Bulletin — "'Baywatch' May Relocate to Hawaii" [31]
- Miss Universe official program [29]
- State of Hawaii proclamation — "Al and April Masini Day" [30]
Thank you. ~2026-41830-08 (talk) 22:16, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
- PS — A gentle question: might an editor read citation [30] alongside the top of the page for congruency? I'd value your honest read. ~2026-41716-48 (talk) 03:06, 31 July 2026 (UTC)
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