Talk:Angela Diaz

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

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• ... that Angela Diaz was accepted into Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons despite not taking the standard medical school exams or paying the $15 application fee? HSPH alumna’s immigrant journey inspires career transforming teens’ health "Diaz stopped in at Columbia University’s College of Physicians and Surgeons—also in her neighborhood—and picked up an application. She’d never given up her dream of becoming a doctor, so she met with an admissions officer and made the case that even though she hadn’t taken the standard medical school exams and didn’t have the $15 application fee, she could handle the work."
  • ALT1:... that Angela Diaz was helped by doctors at the Mount Sinai Adolescent Health Center, a place she later directed? “Make Someone’s Life Better”: A Conversation With Angela Diaz, MD, PhD, MPH

• Reviewed: Did you know nominations/R. Nelson Smith

Created by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Self-nominated at 16:33, 24 September 2021 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - A lot of these sources seem to only be good as WP:BLPPRIMARY and to not contribute towards notability—I'm concerned that the quality of sourcing isn't up to snuff for a BLP.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: - some sentences have some close paraphrasing according to this earwig check, but it shouldn't be a huge thang.

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: - Not provided
Overall: We've got a bit of work to do, but we're almost there! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 22:15, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Theleekycauldron, Per WP:Academic: Once the passage of one or more notability criteria has been verified through independent sources, or through the reliable sources listed explicitly for this purpose in the specific criteria notes, non-independent sources, such as official institutional and professional sources, are widely accepted as reliable sourcing for routine, uncontroversial details. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 12:42, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

@HickoryOughtShirt?4: fair enough—is there an alternate claim to notability, other than GNG? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 21:50, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

I am claiming she passed WP:Academic because of her election to the National Academy of Medicine, a very prestigious academy. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 23:22, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

• Seems to fit NACADEMIC#3, then. I'll pass the article on the sourced requirement, so we're much closer. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 02:56, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

• @HickoryOughtShirt?4? theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 21:12, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

• Theleekycauldron, Earwig isn't working for me right now. I'll comb through it to find the copyvios. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 16:15, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

• Theleekycauldron, Did I get it all? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 03:01, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• Almost, HickoryOughtShirt?4—This sentence seems to be too closely paraphrased, could you fix it?

  Upon finishing her medical degree at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, she completed her Master in Public Health from Harvard University and her PhD in Epidemiology from Columbia University.

  theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 04:04, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• Theleekycauldron, is this enough? HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 13:26, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

• I messed with it a bit more, but it's fine, honestly. I'll pass the nomination, nice work! theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 19:30, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Promoting the main hook to Prep 1 – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 05:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Can we find out more about how she got into med school?

Article says she was able to convince an admissions person to let her in despite not having taken exams to get into medical school or having $15 admission fee. Getting in without the exams intrigued me as it really broke what I thought were ironclad rules about how one gets into medical school. Can we find out more about how she was able to do this? I've done some Google searching but not gotten an answer. Greg Dahlen (talk) 11:10, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Greg Dahlen, well I'm glad my DYK hook was a good one . The website attached to the sentence says she met with an admissions officer and made the case and I think I read elsewhere someone came with her to also make their case. HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 12:08, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

HickoryOughtShirt?4, thanks, yes, I had read that, but I wanted to know more specifically how she made that case. Because no matter how well you can talk about what you've done, I'd think med schools would want you to be tested to really pin down if you have enough knowledge to warrant admission. I would think the tests would ask more knowledge questions, more specifically, and in a broader range, and see more how well the person seeking admission can solve specific problems than in an interview with a counselor. Her getting in without taking this shows creativity, and I feel enhanced by knowing more about creativity. So yes, it was a good hook, at least for me, and I wish I knew more. I got Dr. Diaz's email address from the Web and sent her an e-mail asking about it. If you could find out anything more about this or find where you read that someone went with her, I'd enjoy knowing about it. Greg Dahlen (talk) 12:21, 30 October 2021 (UTC)