Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Remove the Veil
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus to delete. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 18:15, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
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Band with no assertion of notability, fails WP:MUSIC notability criteria, no reliable sources, just a MySpace page. Stormie (talk) 07:43, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, would not appear to meet WP:MUSIC. Lankiveil (speak to me) 09:57, 20 April 2008 (UTC).
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alabama-related deletion discussions. -- BelovedFreak 15:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- BelovedFreak 15:48, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
- Strong Keep, does meet WP:MUSIC (check tours, etc). I do agree, however, that it needs sources. Seeing none on the article does not merit deletion, just find them if you are concerned. ¤IrønCrøw¤ (Speak to Me) 02:00, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well the sole mention of touring in the article is "the band used a fill-in drummer for their November and December tours." If they have "received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country" (as per WP:MUSIC) it would be really helpful if you could add that source to the article. Ditto if you think they satisfy some other criteria of WP:MUSIC. --Stormie (talk) 21:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. Also, the bit with "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such" is part (members went to bands that are notable) I'm adding some sources now, and I found a tour list on their record albel's website for a national tour. ¤IrønCrøw¤ (Speak to Me) 21:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Not sure that a gig list on their record label's web page is "non-trivial coverage in a reliable source" of their tour. Nor that With Blood Comes Cleansing are "a band that is otherwise notable," they don't seem to meet WP:MUSIC either. The whole thing seems like an advertisement for a non-notable band to be honest. --Stormie (talk) 05:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
- I agree. Also, the bit with "Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such" is part (members went to bands that are notable) I'm adding some sources now, and I found a tour list on their record albel's website for a national tour. ¤IrønCrøw¤ (Speak to Me) 21:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Well the sole mention of touring in the article is "the band used a fill-in drummer for their November and December tours." If they have "received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country" (as per WP:MUSIC) it would be really helpful if you could add that source to the article. Ditto if you think they satisfy some other criteria of WP:MUSIC. --Stormie (talk) 21:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep in light of the additional sources. Glad to see User:IronCrow making the additions and improvements. JodyB talk 22:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk - Contribs) 10:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Between the notable members (i.e. members of other supposedly notable bands) and a couple decent sources, they seem to just meet WP:MUSIC. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 16:11, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep in light of more sources. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Still doesnt seem to pass the WP:MUSIC criteria. --neonwhite user page talk 21:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Keep Facedown Records-signed band with multiple national tours. Chubbles (talk) 22:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
- Being signed isn't a criteria for notablity, national tours require non trivial coverage in second party sources. --neonwhite user page talk 20:16, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
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