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Latest comment: 1 month ago by W.andrea in topic Big empty header

Possible improvements

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Now that this is a stand alone, some Infobox improvements can be considered. For example:

  1. Add unicode name & code point
  2. Add "group" (word separators; on-Latin; ...)
  3. Add parameter: Group, See also; is not; other uses (of this mark, e.g. in math)
  4. Check overlap with {{Infobox grapheme}}
  5. Add option image

-DePiep (talk) 21:56, 19 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

Non-English punctuation

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I can't find it again but somewhere there is an idea for a future expansion, to add punctuation marks not seen routinely in English. If this is to be explored further, it would be best to limit it to Western European Latin. I have just stumbled on this at Romanization of Ukrainian#Conventional romanization of proper names: Unlike in the English language where an apostrophe is punctuation, in the Ukrainian language it is a letter. Without language specialists, we could get it badly wrong so best leave it to their respective language Wikipedias --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:50, 24 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

span style="color:transparent etc

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The mysterious <span style="color:transparent; font-size:1px; user-select:none" aria-hidden="true" data-nosnippet>o</span> following the {{char| etc is there to workaround the HarfBuzz bug, which causes combining diacritics to be offset rather than centred. The workaround appends an invisible dot after the representative glyph, which stops the misbehaviour. When that bug gets fixed, the workaround can be removed. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 17:51, 23 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

Which bug? You linked the repo. — W.andrea (talk) 15:01, 5 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, I just copied the response I got at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical), monkey see, monkey do. Maybe you can work it out from the original discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 226#Combining breve ? 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 15:20, 5 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
OK, I'll check it out, thanks — W.andrea (talk) 15:40, 5 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Found it: Combining diacritics on ◌ U+25CC require better fallback positioning #5721 (discussion converted from issue #5720). — W.andrea (talk) 16:20, 5 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Big empty header

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In the article Word divider, this template has a big empty section at the top. Is there some way to hide it, or is the template being used improperly?

I considered editing the template to hide the "above" section if no |mark= was provided, but I'm not sure if this is a good idea:

| abovestyle = font-size:750%; line-height:1.2; font-weight:bold;
+
| abovestyle = font-size:750%; line-height:1.2; font-weight:bold; {{#if:{{{mark|{{{char|}}}}}}||display: none;}}

Thanks — W.andrea (talk) 14:28, 5 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Fixed it! It was a problem with the implementation of the workaround discussed above. This also fixes the big empty headers in sections of the article Bracket. I'm not sure if this fix is bulletproof though, since the workaround doesn't work on my system so I can't see it. — W.andrea (talk) 16:28, 5 July 2026 (UTC)Reply