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Unemployed don't have a choice anymore.

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I still have no idea where to post this! It's in the wrong place! It's in relation to the beginning of the article.Hello, I'm not sure about this. In England if you are unemployed you can't choose if you want to take a job. You either take it regardless of how much it pays or your benefits stop. Maybe you only mean Americans have the right choose? It's a small nit picking comment but if English people understood the fact that those people can't choose there may be less class discrimination. I don't even know if you think that's relevant either lol! I can't do computers!

We should probably just drop all references to "western countries" vs "non-western countries"

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Article says:

Many western countries have developed complex social safety nets -- (Welfare_trap#Welfare_traps_in_practice)

The term "western country" is poorly defined -

The exact scope of the Western world is somewhat subjective in nature, depending on whether cultural, economic, spiritual or political criteria are employed. -- (Western_world#Modern_definitions)
The West as a geographical area is unclear and undefined. There is some disagreement about which nations should or should not be included in the category, when, and why. Certainly related conceptual terminology has changed over time -- (Western_culture#Terminology)

Countries in Asia, South America, and Africa have social safety nets of various sorts and may or may not be "western countries".

In this article we should probably just drop all references to "western countries" vs "non-western countries" and instead just focus on how various countries handle social safety nets and welfare traps (or don't).

-- Oblonng (talk) 22:16, 3 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

Issue of Bias using American Enterprise (AEI) Institute as a Reference

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The American Enterprise Institute (AEI) serves as the propaganda arm of The Carlyle Group and other large firms. Wikipedia's own page on them shows their funding is almost entirely from industry (ExxonMobile, Purdue Pharma, etc.) and right-wing billionaires (Koch brothers, DeVos family), while their board members are virtually all heads of large private equity and venture capital firms. They have a direct economic interest in lower taxation of the wealthy, decreased government regulation and oversight, and keeping wages and economic power low for workers. This really should NOT be used as a reference for Wikipedia anywhere - in line with its supposed neutrality - and especially not for articles on poverty, welfare, and social programs. ~2026-44690-39 (talk) 14:13, 14 August 2026 (UTC)Reply