Talk:VFS Global
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[edit]The tone of the article is highly inconsistent, and some parts sound like corporate PR material (e.g., "History"), while other parts, especially "Criticism and Controversies", are written in a much more matter-of-fact, Wikipedia style. --Masiello Fer09 (talk) 13:05, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
This is not an advertisment, but basic factual information. The objective of wikipedia is to make available information about an organisation with references. This page is supported by substantial external refernces.
Have incorporated changes in the layout as per wikipedia guidelines. Trust this is in order now.
As suggested, added more internal reference links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smoothtie (talk • contribs) 09:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The article looks like a completely biased advertisement of private monopolist corporation who has contracts with governments to process private data. ISCIX-Ex (talk) 00:48, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Recurrent deletions
[edit]This article is being consistently high jacked by the employees of VFS Global to remove any objective information and facts that may seem negatively affect their image. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AChakra California (talk • contribs) 15:29, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- There does seem to be recurrent attempts by anonymous editors to delete any and all criticism of VFS Global. If the deletions continue, perhaps we might ask an administrator to protect the page? -- Flask (talk) 10:50, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
More information needed about VFS Global
[edit]This is a pretty important company. They have an absolutely key position in allowing people to travel between countries, and thus can affect the lives of many people to a large degree. The company manages non-judgmental and administrative tasks related to applications for visa, passport, identity and citizen services for its client governments, enabling them to focus entirely on the critical task of assessment. The company has no influence on jurisdiction of visa process.
This company is subject to criticism, as most companies are, and it is imperative for the sake of objectivity that there remain a criticism section on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AChakra California (talk • contribs) 15:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
I don't have any actual sources, but from my personal experience, and anecdotally from other people I've spoken to, this company is extremely inefficient, and frequently makes it an awfully painful experience to get any visa through them.
I now hear that in UK they have a monopoly on charging all non-UK citizens to get a Schengen (European) visa, and are now making their lives hell, too.
How did they even get these contracts from national governments in the first place? This doesn't seem right -- there is a story here waiting to be uncovered.
There seems to be a massive lack of information about who runs the company, how they manage it (poorly), and exactly what is their position and what are they responsible for. It would be great if they got some public attention and/or competition for their role, which might force them to improve their performance.
The problem is probably compounded by the fact that many of their customers may not be tech-savvy or speak english very well, so won't be able to self-organise or get their points across.
What information do people have? Can we add some sources here, perhaps links to articles written about VFS global or other good sources? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.254.146.140 (talk)
Non-free material
[edit]The lede section contains extensive copy/paste copyright violations from various pages at the VFS Global website, for example this one. This material should be rewritten and sourced to third-party reliable sources. --Tgeairn (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
Assessment comment
[edit]The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:VFS Global/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.
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| This page seems to have been specially modified by the company in question (VFS India) to project their image. This does not read like an article but like an advertisement. This goes against the principles on which Wikipedia has been founded. In the overall interests of Wikipedia, it is suggested that this page - and similar pages - be removed altogether. Though this may sound dictatorial to some, it is necessary to preserve the credibility of Wikipedia. This credibility should not be downgraded by vested interested misusing this wonderful community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FootlooseMumbai (talk • contribs) 13:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
The style of writing is rightly questioned per Wikipedia standards. Consider elaborating. More references (other than websites) would also help, but what's been given so far is a start. Ncmvocalist 15:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC) == Marking this for a NPOV check == There seems to be some hectic activity with this article, and attempts have been made to repeatedly delete content from this article and replace it with text from the company's website, making this look like an advert. My guess is that the anonymous users responsible are located in Mumbai/Delhi, and it is perhaps an online damage control strategy by the company itself, taking into account some of the recent negative publicity that this company has received. I've tagged this for a NPOV check. My advice here would be decide upon the neutral content first, and then mark off sections that should not be deleted. Before deleting any substantial sections, please discuss this on the articles' talk page Soothsayer79 (talk) 14:31, 27 November 2007 (UTC) ^^^^^^The above was moved from Talk:VFS India/Comments but remain relevant to VFS Global^^^^^^ | |
Last edited at 16:36, 20 April 2012 (UTC). Substituted at 09:45, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 21 October 2019
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Please add this line to the opening summary: As of October 2019, VFS Global has a score of 1.5 out of 5 stars on Trustpilot.[31] Update to October 2019 (still 1.5 stars). Please include a time-line of trust pilot rating. AcademiaRyan (talk) 09:42, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Not done. It's already included in the Criticism section. The lead already has a summary of criticism; there's no apparent need to single out this one statistic there. As far as a timeline, you need to provide exactly what you'd want to add. However, this seems like it would be excessive detail not worth including anyway. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:36, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
Need update
[edit]VFS Global had merged with Kuoni Travel Holding (a holding company that sold all the travel services business. i.e. no relation to all licensee and operator of "Kuoni Travel"). The parent company is EQT Partners as of January 2019.
- https://kuoni.com/background.html
- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eqt-vfs-sale/eqt-to-launch-sale-of-swiss-outsourcing-company-vfs-idUSKCN1P90WU
Thus the article need update. I have no time to do so, thanks. Matthew hk (talk) 06:16, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Referencing style
[edit]I don't see any point to use this citation style. One section is enough, not two. Especially, since there is no talk page discussion, this controversial style should not be adopted. Matthew hk (talk) 14:07, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Rewrite tag
[edit]Since the page had been tagged for rewrite but nobody point out the problem in talk page. So, here is my comments.
Lede should be the summary of the context of the main body of text, not the place to introducing new content. So far lots of content appears only at lede. Ownership information should move to its own section.
Also, "VF Worldwide Holdings" seem not the ultimate owner of the company, as Reuters and other source had reported that private equity fund EQT Partners bought Kuoni Group, also known as Kuoni Travel Holding, in 2016, which in turn owned VFS Global . Kuoni Travel Holding and VFS Global merged in 2018, with another reporting that EQT attempted to sell VFS Global in January 2019. Based on the context of The Independent's news report, it did not sufficiently support the fact that "VF Worldwide Holdings" still the parent company of VFS Global (which it was 2009 based on statuary filing). And wiki editor may try to dig out primary source such as listed company annual report of Kuoni Group, to determine whatever "VF Worldwide Holdings" is an intermediate parent/holding company for Kuoni Group. Or, as The Independent suggested, contract was signed with "VF Worldwide Holdings" but the service was provided by VFS Global, which suggests by the news article, had some shady practice in it. Matthew hk (talk) 14:27, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
- The rewrite/neutrality tag was due to anonymous editors copying and pasting in P.R. fluff pieces from the VFS Global website. Most of that problematic content was removed so the tag can be removed now. However, yes, I agree the article still needs a major rewrite. Flask (talk) 19:48, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Removing neutrality issue tag
[edit]I am removing the neutrality template warning as the particular objections were resolved a year ago. The neutrality template was added on 4 April 2019 by Dusti due to objections about sections which heavily drew upon VFS Global's corporate press releases. At that time, the entire article read like a glowing puff piece for VFS Global. This particular issue was resolved by admin JzG's deletion of the corporate PR content on 2 October 2019. Although I am removing the neutrality tag since this particular issue was resolved, it must be noted that this article has been repeatedly vandalized by anonymous IP editors who continue to delete sections unfavorable to VFS Global and continue to attempt to rewrite sections to be favorable to the company. Such recurrent behavior resulted in the article being protected (per my request) on 30 September 2019. This behavior may likely continue in the future and will warrant watching. — Flask (talk) 01:42, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
Recent edits by Blanes tree
[edit]Hello @Blanes tree: Your edit summary states that these sections and their associated citations were removed due to unsuitable sources. Although this is true in the case of TrustPilot and SiteJabber citations, the removals of many other sources listed as reputable by Wikipedia do not fit this justification. Per WP:RS, both The Register and The Independent are listed as reputable sources. Also, per WP:RS, Xinhua is "considered generally reliable for factual reporting" and would be deemed acceptable in this instance. As such, why remove sources listed as reliable by WP:RS using this justification? As a result of these removals, the article has numerous broken short citations.
Next, your recent edits have converted an article written in short citation format to an inline citation format. Per WP:CITE, "articles should not undergo large-scale conversion between formats without consensus to do so." More importantly, per WP:INLINECLUTTER, since "inline references can significantly bloat the wikitext in the edit window," short citations are preferred. On these grounds, the majority of your edits need to be reverted. I will be rolling back your changes. — Flask (talk) 17:50, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- @Blanes tree: Again, you removed content from reliable sources with spurious justification. There is no copyright violation with quoting an expert from the Harper & Leapman 2007 article in The Toronto Star or with the sentences cited by Taylor 2008 in The Daily Telegraph. Furthermore, The Toronto Star is a reputable Canadian newspaper and, per WP:RS, The Daily Telegraph is listed as a reliable source. Yet you removed an entire cited paragraph and sources under this justification. I will be rolling back your changes. — Flask (talk) 18:34, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- In my latest revisions, I have retained and synthesized your prose edits while restoring the original short citations and reputable sources. This is my attempt at editorial consensus. Per WP:INLINECLUTTER, short citations are preferred to inline citations which are more susceptible to bloating, and cited content from reputable sources should not be removed on the grounds of being unreliable. — Flask (talk)
Confusing citation style that obfuscates verification
[edit]The page's citation style is utterly perplexing. As an editor and a reader I am finding it very difficult to verify this article because this referencing style is unlike anything I have seen on or off Wikipedia. Under references we have a list of citations many of which are repeat citations. For example Baker 2009; Goodin 2007; Shifrin 2007; Gibbs 2019. Goodin 2007; Chauke 2019; Xinhua 2019; Gibbs 2019. And Travel News Weekly 2019; Chauke 2019; Xinhua 2019. Then we have a list of works cited which uses Template:Sfn ostensibly to de-clutter the WikiText but the effect is an unwieldy reference list which negates the page's verifiability. I propose we replace this page's convoluted referencing style that repeats the same references over and over again which isn't necessary because the page doesn't cite any books. The page's references comprise online sources so it would make more sense to use template:cite web and invoke the references throughout the page [1] then invoking the sources as and where they're needed by placing a backslash in the reference tag like so [1]
Adopting this simpler referencing format would make it easier for the public to verify the page's contents and it would make it easier for other editors to contribute to the article.Blanes tree (talk) 19:02, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Hello @Blanes tree: You are not replying to messages directed at you on this very Talk Page about your problematic edits. First, why are you removing sources such as The Register and The Independent which are explicitly listed as reliable by WP:RSPS on the grounds that these sources are unreliable?
- Second, your attempts to convert an article written in popular short citation format to an inline citation format contravenes WP:CITE. Per WP:CITE, "articles should not undergo large-scale conversion between formats without consensus to do so." More importantly, per WP:INLINECLUTTER, since "inline references can significantly bloat the wikitext in the edit window," short citations are preferred.
- Third, you now added a "Confusing" tag which is reserved for vague text on the unrelated grounds that you don't like the citation style. Your edit summary states the SFN citation style "is unlike anything I have seen on or off Wikipedia," and yet the widespread SFN citation format is used in over a hundred thousand Wikipedia articles, including Featured Articles.
- Your personal dislike of a popular citation style and your desire to unilaterally change it without editorial consensus to inline citations is explicitly forbidden by WP:CITE. As the "Confusing" tag should not be added when an editor simply dislikes a popular citation style, I am rolling back the addition of the tag. — Flask (talk) 20:41, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- OK, that's cool. I can see the rationale for using Template:Sfn to keep the WikiText clean. Do you agree that the reference repetition makes the reference list look longer that it actually is, though?Blanes tree (talk) 13:42, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
References
Repeat content kept by @Flask
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@Flask I wanted to take a moment to discuss the recent changes you've made to the lead section. While I appreciate your contributions to improving the article, I noticed that the criticisms mentioned are already covered in depth within the 'Criticism and Controversies' section, making this a clear case of redundancy.
As you likely know, Wikipedia’s guidelines emphasize the importance of keeping articles concise and avoiding unnecessary duplication. The lead section should summarize key aspects of the article, but it should not repeat detailed points that are already covered elsewhere. Do you agree?
Including the same detailed information in both the lead and body detracts from the article's clarity and balance. It's important that we give due weight per Wiki guidelines to all sections, but avoid overemphasizing any one aspect, especially when it's already presented comprehensively in another section.
I also noticed you’ve made quite a few similar changes to this page, which have led to various reversions. This suggests that some other editors share concerns about these additions being made by you? I’m sure your goal, like mine, is to create the best possible article, so I'd love to hear your reasoning behind including detailed points from the 'Criticism and Controversies' section in the lead.
I think we can agree that improving the quality of this article should be our common goal. A more concise lead, leaving in-depth criticism for the dedicated section, will likely make the article stronger and more aligned with Wikipedia’s best practices.
Looking forward to your thoughts, and happy to continue this conversation here. I think working together will ensure the article remains well-balanced and adheres to Wiki standards. StellarVoyager (talk) 06:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- @StellarVoyager: Thank you for your message and for discussing this issue with me on the Talk Page. I likewise look forward to working together with you and ensuring this article adheres to Wikipedia's guidelines.
- Your rationale for deleting all references to criticisms or controversies about VFS from the lead section stated:
"Removed redundant content from the lead section that is already detailed in the 'Criticism and controversies' section. This edit aligns with Wikipedia guidelines on avoiding repetition and maintaining clarity, without removing any unique information or citations."
- Wikipedia's guidelines—specifically WP:LEAD—states the lead section of an article should include a summary of the article's important points, including prominent controversies:
"The lead should stand on its own as a concise overview of the article's topic. It should identify the topic, establish context, explain why the topic is notable, and summarize the most important points, including any prominent controversies."
- Since WP:LEAD explicitly states the lead should include a summary of prominent controversies, your deletion of all references to criticisms or controversies about VFS from the lead section does not follow the guideline. Per WP:LEAD, we should include that information in the lead.
- To address any secondary concerns that the sentences in the lead section were too similar to those in the 'Criticism and controversies' section, I have paraphrased and streamlined those sentences in my latest edit. This hopefully addresses your concerns with repetition. But again, per WP:LEAD, we should include a summary of prominent controversies in the lead. — Flask (talk) 08:37, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
- Update: User:StellarVoyager was globally blocked for being a "spam farm on notorious range." — Flask⚗️(talk) 15:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
Rounded view
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Hi everyone! I’ve edited here previously with @Flask and really appreciated the positive collaboration. I’ve noticed that while the article is well-researched, especially regarding criticisms and controversies, some may say it lacks a broader view of the company’s achievements or noteworthy recognitions. Especially when compared to the other industry companies on Wikipedia that I've seen.
To ensure balance and a more complete article (in keeping with WP:NPOV and WP:DUE), I propose creating a short, well-sourced “Awards and Recognitions” section. This would not diminish or remove controversies; instead, it would complement what’s already there by providing notable particualars for readers who want an overview of all significant facets of the company or while researching this industry.
If there are any concerns or further ideas about how best to incorporate such content, I’d love to discuss them.
Looking forward to your thoughts and continuing this collaborative effort to keep the article balanced and comprehensive! StellarVoyager (talk) 09:22, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Flask Hi, hope all well. I found some interesting up to date information while researching. Am updating those first. Waiting to hear from you on the above if any suggestions on the format. StellarVoyager (talk) 16:24, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- @StellarVoyager Hello, I hope your week is going well! Regarding the newly added information: Per WP:LEAD, the lead section should recap existing article information rather than introduce new information for the first time, so any details mentioned in the lead section should also exist somewhere else in the body, likely in the History section.
- Regarding awards: I think these draft guidelines may offer some useful advice, Wikipedia:Awards and accolades. Any awards should be supported by reliable independent secondary sources establishing their significance. And, to qualify for inclusion in the lead, the award must be of sufficient significance that it contributes to the notability of the subject. We might also consider integrating any awards and recognitions into the History section rather than creating a new section. — Flask⚗️(talk) 19:32, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. Yes, I will add the information in the body History section as suggested.
- Regarding the awards, understood. StellarVoyager (talk) 23:21, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
- Update: User:StellarVoyager was globally blocked for being a "spam farm on notorious range." — Flask⚗️(talk) 15:37, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- Regarding awards: I think these draft guidelines may offer some useful advice, Wikipedia:Awards and accolades. Any awards should be supported by reliable independent secondary sources establishing their significance. And, to qualify for inclusion in the lead, the award must be of sufficient significance that it contributes to the notability of the subject. We might also consider integrating any awards and recognitions into the History section rather than creating a new section. — Flask⚗️(talk) 19:32, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
SERENEHORIZON01's reinsertion of content added/proposed by StellarVoyager
[edit]Hello @SERENEHORIZON01:
Your latest edit just re-added the same content and same citation regarding the visa centre as the recently blocked "spam farm account" StellarVoyager. Your edit also added awards content previously mentioned by StellarVoyager on this Talk Page as their next planned edits. As Northern Moonlight recently removed some of StellarVoyager’s additions, you might want to discuss this together on the Talk Page before re-adding it.
Regarding the new, non-StellarVoyager additions: Although I see VFS Global's PR department is currently touting the CiX acquisition news, I'm not certain if it merits inclusion in the history section. @Northern Moonlight: Thoughts? — Flask⚗️(talk) 16:09, 17 July 2025 (UTC)
- The only addition I see that merits inclusion is the acquisition stated as a simple fact without speculation to the motive.
- I have significant concerns about the citations used in the edit: four articles are cited and all of them read like PR pieces. @SERENEHORIZON01: Please discuss the sources you want to use here before making an edit. Northern Moonlight 04:44, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- Dear @Flask: and @Northern Moonlight:, I was searching for recent updates and did not see the previous history. @Flask Thanks for updating the talk page. I had read about the awards here.
Consensus on significance of edits Serial Update Reason / Context Source 1 “In 2025, VFS Global announced acquisition of a majority stake in CiX Citizen Experience, a São Paulo-based provider of digital and physical citizen-services solutions.” @Northern Moonlight Yes, agreed. Factual mention without their reason. @Flask Confirmed? [1] 2 “Located in Dubai, VFS Global launched the world’s largest visa centre in May 2025. The centre has over 400 staff, can process 10,000 applications daily, and spans 150,000 square feet.” Encyclopedic relevance due to global superlative (largest centre in the world); ascending statistics improve readability. [2] 3 “VFS Global entered into a partnership with SAP for solutions to visa and mobility services.” Readers may want to know SAP is now involved in visa processing? Seems globally significant [3] 4 “In 2016, CEO Zubin Karkaria was appointed Chevalier de l’Ordre National du Mérite for his role in developing the visa facilitation system and contributing to French tourism.” Sovereign recognition of enduring notability; fits historical context [4] - Just looking to support what’s best for the article- consensus will guide edits. SERENEHORIZON01 (talk) 07:34, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- The text looks fine but the source is questionable. Their Instagram page states they are
the media, marketing & advertising segment of the business daily Financial Express
. Is there a better source? - We can include the first part. The numbers are not useful without a comparison to its peers.
- This is the same citation from the rev. It’s a press release.
- Notability of the article subject is not in question here. This is also the same citation and is the least neutral of them all. Northern Moonlight 08:25, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- The text looks fine but the source is questionable. Their Instagram page states they are
- Hello @Northern Moonlight:,
- I have removed items 1 & 3 as I could not find better sources. If any of us do in the future, we can update our group accordingly.
- Based on the discussion so far, here's a reflection of current thinking.
Consensus on significance of edits (revised) Serial Update Reason / Context Source 2 “Located in Dubai, VFS Global launched the world’s largest visa centre in May 2025.” Statement is encyclopedic in nature given scale (superlative claim). As per @Northern Moonlight's note, the numbers may need comparative context, hence removed statistics. [5] 4 “In 2016, CEO Zubin Karkaria was appointed Chevalier de l’Ordre National du Mérite for his role in developing the visa facilitation system and contributing to French tourism.” Sovereign recognition is independently verifiable and historically relevant. Updated to cite French Embassy. [6]
- Will update if we reach consensus.
- SERENEHORIZON01 (talk) 10:37, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
- No. 2 looks good to me. I’m neutral to No. 4 so perhaps @Flask can give their opinion here. Northern Moonlight
- Numbers 2 and 4 seem fine to me, so long as they are kept to single sentences. I don't believe numbers 1 and 3 merit inclusion even with better sources. — Flask⚗️(talk) 02:41, 19 July 2025 (UTC)
References
- ↑ "VFS Global acquires majority stake in Brazil's CiX Citizen Experience". The Financial Express. 2025-05-06. Retrieved 2025-07-17.
- ↑ "Dubai: World's largest visa centre opens, to accept 10,000 applications a day". 2025-05-20.
- ↑ "VFS Global partners with SAP to transform digital cross-border mobility - FutureCIO". 2025-05-12.
- ↑ Staff, Entrepreneur Middle East (2025-03-01). "Indian Visionaries 2025: Zubin Karkaria, Founder and Chief Executive Officer, VFS Global". Entrepreneur. Retrieved 2025-07-17.
- ↑ "Dubai: World's largest visa centre opens, to accept 10,000 applications a day". Khaleej Times. 2025-05-20.
- ↑ "French Ambassador's Travel Awards Soirée". Ambassade de France en Inde. Retrieved 2025-07-18.
Cutting redundant and PR fluff added by recently-blocked StellarVoyager
[edit]User:StellarVoyager, prior to their indefinite global block for being a "spam farm account" adding corporate PR fluff to articles, inserted a lot of ... fluff... to this article. Much of this superfluous content should be cut:
The company’s service portfolio expanded to include tasks such as biometric data collection, digital application assistance, and identity verification. ...
Under these contracts, VFS Global provides services such as biometric collection, identity verification, and online application assistance.
^ Notice the second sentence is nearly identical to the earlier sentence that occurs in a preceding paragraph. We should cut the second occurrence.
In February 2025, VFS Global launched a generative AI-powered chatbot—developed at its AI centres in India, the UAE and Germany, to deliver voice and text-based customer support for UK visa applicants in 141 countries.
^ Near every major company today from small hotel chains to online retailer has an AI chatbot. It's not unique or notable. It's like saying they have a website. Everyone does these days.
In April 2024, the company partnered with the non-profit Responsible AI Institute for their expertise in AI ethics and data privacy to ensure the development of AI solutions that are secure as well as ethical which meet with the needs of visa processing.
^ Again, nearly every major company likewise is engaging in AI partnerships to ensure such AI-streamlined operations don't get them sued. There is nothing notable about it. @Northern Moonlight thoughts? — Flask⚗️(talk) 23:14, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
- I agree on all three points except for #1 that I prefer the second sentence over the first one.
[S]ervice portfolio expanded to include
is too PR-ish sounding to me. Northern Moonlight 23:26, 20 July 2025 (UTC)- Okay. I'll keep the second sentence and cut the first one, as well as cut the other content. — Flask⚗️(talk) 23:51, 20 July 2025 (UTC)
Brief context into history
[edit]Noticed a small gap in the history section.
FT mentions EQT taking Kuoni private in 2016 and the tourism business separation in 2017. Seems like relevant context that isn’t currently covered.
Any concerns with adding a brief mention?Ethanmurphy95 (talk) 06:03, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- I think a brief mention seems warranted, provided it is kept very concise and tied directly to VFS rather than Kuoni's broader history. The key thing to avoid is filler/fluff. @Northern Moonlight: your thoughts? — Flask⚗️(talk) 04:46, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Sounds good to me. Northern Moonlight 05:00, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- Edit done. Yes I am of the same thought so spent time on understanding your previous suggestions for this page.10:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC) Ethanmurphy95 (talk) 10:48, 29 April 2026 (UTC)
Attack of the Sock Puppets
[edit]Hi @Northern Moonlight and @QEDK: Just drawing your attention to a pattern of edits to this article. The three successive editors on this Talk Page—Ethanmurphy95, SERENEHORIZON01, and StellarVoyager—have all been globally blocked for being sock puppets / spam farms. All of these accounts appear to have engaged in undisclosed paid editing and sought to cut or minimize anything unfavorable to VFS Global.
Before this latest round of sockpuppet edits, this article had been protected in 2019 due to relentless attempts by paid editors to remove negative material about VFS Global. Given the persistence of these paid editors over the years, it seems likely they will return again with the same objective: removing or rewriting anything unfavorable to this company. — Flask⚗️(talk) 16:54, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- Thanks for the ping. I added this page back to my watchlist. Northern Moonlight 17:36, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
- I am aware yes, I was the one who flagged their account (for a second opinion on a UPE block I wanted to impose myself, not for a check). I'm not particularly concerned because this is a fairly low amount of effort on both sides of the table atm. qedk (t 愛 c) 19:41, 21 June 2026 (UTC)
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