Talk:Turkish National Movement

turkey's place

where is turkey? where will you find turkey? turkey is located in the middle east. also locatedin southeastern europe and southweastern asia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.59.53.124 (talk) 14:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Article lacks substance

I have to say, considering that so many articles having to do with anything Turkish are over-edited, I am stunned to see how under-edited this article is. The article is currently on the main page today, and still no edits have been made since March, which is a bad thing in this case. Hiberniantears (talk) 16:49, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

You are absolutely right, this is unacceptable. Though I have to remind to you that most of the over-editing of articles related to Turkey and especially of its history are due to countless Turkophobes who inhabit these pages and spend their time spreading hate propaganda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.77.156.90 (talk) 11:10, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

From talk page of "Establishment of TNM"

Cleanup

Currently this article is no more than a collection of article summaries. The phrase "establishment of the turkish national movement" is not apparently notable. Furthermore, it is almost entirely redundant, being covered in the articles linked herein and in Turkey. In terms of the style and layout of the page, it is drowning in unnecessary images. Add something of note, clean up the introduction, and make the article stand on its own. If that can't be done, it might not be of line to nominate it in WP:AfD. MrZaius^talk 04:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree. This article can be merged to Turkish national movement. Takabeg (talk) 04:15, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

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• "establishment of the Turkish National Movement" -Llc 5

We understand that only Hamit Palabiyik used this term. All of other samples are nothing but Wikipedia "invention".

Takabeg (talk) 04:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Merge proposal

Please use this space to discuss the proposed merge of Association for Defence of National Rights into this article. I'm assuming that's the direction you want the articles merged. (Pinging @Benlittlewiki:. Joyous! Noise! 23:50, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Ideology

I think that Social darwinism, Ethnic nationalism, Anti-Greek sentiment, Racialism, Anti-Armenian sentiment, Anti-Kurdish sentiment and Anti-Assyrian sentiment should be in the infobox, at least at the "faction" section, since they were part of the ideology of the TNM and of many leaders of it, Ataturk included. Edward Mike005 (talk) 17:53, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Things you listed, especially social Darwinism, ethnic nationalism and racialism, are anachronistic ideologies or thoughts for the years of 1919-1923 in Turkey, and all of the "anti-" sentiments were not ideas or goals of the movement. You are not a Turk and it's clear that you don't know the history of post-WWI Turkey including its context and Atatürk's political tendencies. Aybeg (talk) 18:37, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

exactly. I am not a Turk, so I can look at the things objectively, since I am also not Greek, Armenian or Kurdish.

With that being said, social darwinism and racialism in Europe peaked during the interwar period.

Anti-Armenianism and, especially, anti-Hellenism, where stated goals of the TNM. Of Ataturk personally. To create a homogenous Turkish state. Turkey for Turks and Turks only. The burning of Smyrna and the mass killings of unarmed Greek and Armenian villagers show that. These operations were not against the Greek or Armenian regular armed forces, but against civilian population that didn't belong to the Turkish state envisioned by Ataturk and the TNM. Edward Mike005 (talk) 18:55, 14 May 2026 (UTC)

Aside from social darwinism, what you added in the infobox was sourced in the article itself, so I will restore your edit partially. I also restored the disruptive removal of Armenian genocide category and removed an unsourced position from the infobox; couldn't find a source for the latter in the article either. KhndzorUtogh (talk) 06:49, 27 May 2026 (UTC)