Talk:Turkish Air Force

Typhoon

To Hurricane Spitfire, refer to your edit on the Typhoon section of the article, whereas:

• Firstly, you insists on stating that the reason for German rejection is "Germany said 'NEIN' and Germany is the real boss of the Eurofighter GmbH consortium, headquartered in Germany", however there is no reference that states that this is the reason and he also did not provide any reference to back up this claim.
• Secondly, you insists on adding the following sentence: "The U.S. Senate's approval for the sale of 40 advanced F-16Vs to Turkey on 27 January 2024 makes the Eurofighter purchase less likely, due to the cost advantages associated with TAI's expertise in the licensed production of the F-16 and its components since 1987" citing BBC and F-16.net as sources. However, neither of these sources mentions anything about reason procurement of Typhoon is less likely, Typhoon itself or TAI's experience with the F-16. IMO, this claim may constitute as original research, which is prohibited by Wikipedia policy. Since you are a new editor on Wikipedia, you may not be familiar with the policies we have in place. WP:OR explicitly states Wikipedia articles must not contain original research. On Wikipedia, original research means material—such as facts, allegations, and ideas—for which no reliable, published source exists.

With that said, any claims lacking references and original research will be removed. Ckfasdf (talk) 16:22, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Sabiha Gökçen

@Hurricane Spitfire: I'd like to emphasize that this article primarily addresses the overall context of the Turkish Air Force. Therefore, a concise reference to Sabiha Gökçen as the first female fighter pilot suffices. Those interested in more comprehensive information can refer to her dedicated page, Sabiha Gökçen. Similarly, notable figures like Chuck Yeager, who holds significance in global aviation history as the first pilot confirmed to exceed the speed of sound in level flight, receive only one sentence coverage in United States Air Force article.

I'd also like to highlight that there is currently an excessive citations of Sabiha Gökçen in the article. Therefore, it'll be better to reduce number of citation per WP:OVERCITE. Ckfasdf (talk) 17:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

Images in the article

For an article with only have size of 24 kB (3964 words), this article is somewhat on the short side. But, IMO it has too many images and MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE also states too many (images) can be distracting.

The recent inclusion of an image of Ahmet Ali Çelikten exacerbates the problem by adding to the excessive number of images and contributing to the issue of over-citation. Additionally, in my opinion, Çelikten's significance for Turkish Air Force topics is not as notable as that of Sabiha Gökçe, whose name has been immortalized as the name of an airport in Turkey. Moreover, other images in the article also suffer from the MOS:SANDWICH problem, where text is sandwiched between two opposing images. Therefore, it is necessary to begin trimming the images to address these issues, starting with the removal of the image of Ahmet Ali Çelikten. Ckfasdf (talk) 01:44, 26 February 2024 (UTC)

TAF in WWII - British involvement

The article omits mention that Turkish pilots trained as guests of the RAF in WWII. Brookwood Cemetery contains a Turkish Air Force section in which 14 are buried who died in this country chiefly in accidents while flying training as early as 1943 (before Turkey joined the Allies) and into 1945. There could be some material for users in this linked page: https://thebignote.com/2024/01/22/brookwood-cemetery-the-turkish-air-cemetery/ which I gladly offer. Cloptonson (talk) 17:20, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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Aircraft flown section

@Shadow4dark The UAV and UCAV entries should be treated separately in the aircraft inventory because they represent different operational roles. UAVs used primarily for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance (ISR) serve a different operational role from UCAVs designed and equipped to conduct armed/strike missions. Therefore, where reliable sources support the classification and inventory numbers, reconnaissance UAVs and armed UCAVs should be listed separately rather than one entry being removed simply because both are unmanned aircraft.

For comparison, you may also check the United States Air Force article and related aircraft flown section on Wikipedia. Unmanned reconnaissance aircraft and armed/hunter-killer platforms are distinguished according to their roles and capabilities. This demonstrates why treating every unmanned aircraft as a single identical category can be misleading. The important distinction here is not simply whether an aircraft is unmanned, but the role for which the particular aircraft is operated and configured.

Please discuss any disagreement with these entries here and seek consensus rather than repeatedly reverting the changes. Continued back-and-forth reverting may constitute edit warring under Wikipedia's edit-warring policy and may be referred to the appropriate administrators' noticeboard if it continues. Mogumogu40 (talk) 08:01, 9 August 2026 (UTC)

Where are these sources that tb2 is in Turkish air force and where are these sources of these different blocks that they use? Shadow4dark (talk) 10:18, 9 August 2026 (UTC)