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Latest comment: 1 year ago by ShadyNorthAmericanIPs in topic Liturgy book

Liturgy book

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As far as I can tell, this museum exhibit, a suspiciously-huge religious book with a comically gun-shaped cavity cut into the pages, isn't even purported to literally be what was used to smuggle the guns? The german articles are all careful to call it "nachgestellt" or "einem solchen", but I'm not sure it's even appropriate to include in an encyclopedia if it's just a visual aid at a museum exhibit? It doesn't sound at all like what Aust describes, even if we ignore the impracticalities of a lawyer passing this cartoon prop to a client:

As the defending lawyers had to hand over their briefcases, only the files remained as a possible means of transport for illicit objects. File binders suitably prepared for this purpose could then have been exchanged in the courtroom or the cell acting as a waiting-room behind it. [...]
The police officers at the entrance, Speitel said, never physically took and searched the file binders brought into the courtroom by the defending lawyers. [...]
[Speitel] [...] prepared the lawyer Arndt Muller's 'files' for the same purpose. He cut hollow spaces inside the files, hid objects inside them, and stuck the hollow spaces up again with bookbinding glue. In that way, according to Speitel, you could still leaf through the edges of the whole stack of papers without revealing the hollow space and anything hidden inside it.

Am I missing some source that confirms that this is not merely an incidental visual aid, but a Christian liturgy guidebook that actually was used by the RAF? There is a welt.de article that uses the photo, but the body describes the same scenario as Aust, and so calls it "Prozessakte", which is pretty clearly contradicted by the visible text (and, incidentally, by this article: "Christian liturgy guidebook" at least seems like an accurate description). The image description here calls them "Akte".

Is there something else? If not, this is pretty profoundly misleading and should probably just be removed. ShadyNorthAmericanIPs (talk) 00:01, 18 April 2025 (UTC)Reply

The original image author helpfully provided the website of the exhibit here: https://www.hdgbw.de/ausstellungen/raf/ ShadyNorthAmericanIPs (talk) 21:17, 18 April 2025 (UTC)Reply
Removed after further confirmation from very helpful owner of the original image, who reached out to the curator of the museum:
> The object is not an original. The description in the exhibition also mentioned that it was a "Nachbau eines Waffencontainers" (replica of a weapons container) ShadyNorthAmericanIPs (talk) 22:49, 23 April 2025 (UTC)Reply