Talk:Soliloquy/GA1

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Nominator: MallardTV (talk · contribs) 21:05, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

Reviewer: Noleander (talk · contribs) 12:29, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

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Criteria: 1a. prose () 1b. MoS () 2a. ref layout () 2b. cites WP:RS () 2c. no WP:OR () 2d. no WP:CV () 3a. broadness () 3b. focus () 4. neutral () 5. stable () 6a. free or tagged images () 6b. pics relevant () Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked are unassessed

Comments from Noleander

• Clarify . Soliloquies are distinguished from monologues by their introspective nature and by the absence or disregard of other characters within the scene. readers may think the word "scene" means the entire scene of the play/performance; more precise might be . Soliloquies are distinguished from monologues by their introspective nature and by the absence or disregard of other characters on the stage.

• Ambiguity Soliloquies are distinguished from monologues by their introspective nature and by the absence or disregard of other characters within the scene. They are used as ... The word "They" at start of 2nd sentence could refer to monologues or even characters. Consider removing ambiguity by changing "They" to Soliloquies; or change "soliloquies" to "They"; or by flipping the two sentences.

• Plainer wording: ...a soliloquy creates a space where the character’s private world is made publicly visible ... word "space" here seems to be term of art; a bit too poetic? For a general purpose encyclopedia, consider using wording more understandable to the layperson. E.g. ...a soliloquy is a device where the ... or ...a soliloquy creates an environment where the ... or ...a soliloquy creates an situation where the ...

• Plainer word: ... is made publicly visible without the need for other interlocutors. Many readers, especially those for whom English is not their native tongue, will not know what "interlocutor" is. Consider "characters" or "actors" or similar.

• Clarify From the mid-seventeenth century onward, neoclassical criticism... Readers are not informed what phrase "neoclassical criticism" means. Is this an academic discipline? If so: what sort? Philosophy? Drama? Politics? Or is it simply critics in the contemporary media? Should either add words to explain (or give context to) "neoclassical criticism", or replace with alternative wording.

• Clarify: ... the influence of the Renaissance soliloquy endured in modified forms. ... Not clear what, exactly, "Renaissance soliloquy" means. Is it a proper noun? Was it defined earlier in the article? Clarify by changing to something readers can grasp, eg. to ""Renaissance-style soliloquy" or simply "soliloquy".

• Clarify: During the Romantic and Victorian periods, soliloquy-like monologues reemerged as a means of expressing individual consciousness and emotional intensity... As written now, sort of forces the reader to remember the definition of monologue from elsewhere in article .... some readers won't remember. Does "soliloquy-like monologue" mean there were other character(s) on the stage, and the speaker is directing their words to the other character(s)? Or does it mean the speaker was acknowledging the presence of the other characters? Suggest help reader by adding a few words.

• Explain: ... critical reception of the soliloquy became more favorable once again, though often within a redefined framework. What does "redefined framework" mean here? Is it defined in the following sentence? if so, clarify. If not, clarify anyway :-) Also consider giving examples of these new frameworks.

• Proper noun? define. ... the increased attention to individual expression characteristic of Renaissance drama. Reader will not know exactly what is meant by "Renaissance drama". Can you define it here? Or reword to minimize confusing. E..g "Renaissance-era drama" or similar.

• Connect sentences: Shakespeare’s works exemplify the period’s mastery of the form. In Richard II, the king’s soliloquies articulate the psychological ... Four authors are named in the preceding two sentences (before "In Richard II..") so can you help the reader know which of those four wrote Richard II? Consider change to In his Richard II.. or simply connecting those two sentences with a colon e.g. change "form." to "form:"

• Source needs more details: "Dramatic Monologue". obo. Retrieved 29 April 2025.
  • What is "obo" ? Short for Oxford Bibliography? Spell out.
  • Author is not named. Appears to be Cornelia Pearsall
  • Consider adding publication date: LAST MODIFIED: 25 June 2013
  • Consider adding DOI: 10.1093/obo/9780199799558-0094

• Source missing author: "To be, or not to be Meaning, Hamlet, Shakespeare, Soliloquy, Monologue, & Facts Britannica". www.britannica.com. Retrieved 29 April 2025.{"To be, or not to be Meaning, Hamlet, Shakespeare, Soliloquy, Monologue, & FactsBritannica". www.britannica.com. Retrieved 29 April 2025.
  • author is Meg Matthias

• Suggest reviewing all sources and seeing if author or publication date can be provided.

• Categories: probably could benefit from some more categories, e.g.
  • Category:Fiction-writing mode
  • Category:Monologues (which also includes soliloquies)
  • Category:Narrative techniques

• Consider adding one or two topic bars at the bottom of the article, if appropriate. E.g.
  • {{Theatre}} i.e. Template:Theatre

• Image free-use? Image https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Cherry_Orchard_MAT.jpg metadata page claims to satisfy WP free-use policy, because it allegedly was published (photo printed & distributed) before 1930, but I don't see any proof of publication date in that metadata page. Probably not a big deal for GA approval, but if you take this article to FA, they will require proof that the photo was published (not just taken) before 1930.

• Image caption: Faust (Jaewoo Kim) realizes the... If possible, add link to Jaewoo Kim; if not in English WP, maybe he has a Korean WP article to link to?

• Accessibility / Visually impaired: only a few of the images have "alt" text, which describes the visual image (which is a distinct purpose, different from the caption). See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Accessibility/Alternative text for images. Ideally, all images would have "alt" text.

• At bottom of article, consider adding links to Wiki Commons & other projects. Viz

{{Sister project links |wikt=no |commons=yes |commonscat=yes |n=no |q=yes |s=yes |b=no |v=no}}

• @MallardTV: That's all I have for now. Ping me when you've addressed/resolved the above, and I'll make another pass. Noleander (talk) 12:51, 14 May 2025 (UTC)

  @Noleander I'm going over it now! MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 12:52, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

  @Noleander Alright, I think I addressed all of the concerns. I cannot find any article for Kim on any wiki. MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 13:12, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

  @MallardTV Regarding topic bar at bottom: it is customary to default the display to collapsed so it does not take too much real estate until user clicks "Show" button : {{Theatre}} -> {{Theatre | state=collapsed}} Noleander (talk) 14:24, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

  @Noleander Ah, I see, thank you! MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 14:28, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

  And uh... How do I do that? MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 14:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

  Oh I see that you told me how. MallardTV ^{Talk to me!} 14:31, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

You made the correct change, but it is not collapsing in my browser .. not sure why. I posted a question in WP Help Desk about how to initially collapse; maybe I don't understand the process. Not an obstacle to GA. Noleander (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

• Okay, the changes look good. It is a great article!! Passing for GA. Noleander (talk) 15:40, 15 May 2025 (UTC)