Talk:Socialism

Opening line describes communism, not socialism

I think a more reasonable modern view of socialism can be summarised better with amended version:

'Socialism is an economic and political philosophy encompassing diverse economic and social systems characterised by social supervision of key aspects of an economy, as opposed to unchecked private ownership.' ~2026-20912-7 (talk) 23:22, 10 January 2026 (UTC)

The current first sentence is cited to multiple sources with quotations. You're thinking of social democracy. Yue🌙 (talk) 01:07, 12 January 2026 (UTC)

I must agree with the proposed amendment. No modern definition of socialism should include government ownership of the means of production. 5198blk (talk) 05:51, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

Social ownership is not synonymous with government ownership. As that article says, it

can take the form of community ownership, state ownership, common ownership, employee ownership, cooperative ownership, and citizen ownership of equity. LastDodo (talk) 07:52, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

I do not see citizen ownership in the opening paragraph. Citizen ownership would largely be private, even with stock exchanges. It's not social ownership. 5198blk (talk) 15:56, 7 May 2026 (UTC)

I simply copy pasted from the opening paragraph of the social ownership article. LastDodo (talk) 09:19, 8 May 2026 (UTC)

Also it does not mention that socialism is an economic system, only a political and economic philosophy. Should there be seperate pages for socialism (political/economic philosophy) and socialism (economic system) with a disambiguation? NonEuclideanG (talk) 02:31, 3 August 2026 (UTC)

@NonEuclideanG: Socialist economics (titled "Socialism (economic system)" when it was first created in December 2015, with material split from this article). – Vipz (talk) 02:50, 3 August 2026 (UTC)

Removing Social Democrats from List of politicians (Sanders, AOC, Mamdani)

I think that social democrats should be excluded from this article because social democracy isn't A form of socialism. Dougislavafishkingandhischickensarenamedbriananddoodoo2000hi (talk) 09:03, 2 August 2026 (UTC)

I guess this has already been acted on as I can’t see Mamdani or AOC in article. There’s a brief mention of Sanders which seems solid. I’d argue against including mention of Mamdani or AOC as RECENTISM but it’s very No True Scotsman to never include them because they’re not socialists, as most RSs label them as such. BobFromBrockley (talk) 06:04, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Analysis of the Soviet Model

What on earth is this massive section doing in this article? It's a valid topic, but in its own right, not on this page. BobFromBrockley (talk) 15:03, 13 August 2026 (UTC)

As no replies, I will delete this soon. Its contents belong in Economic planning systems of communist states and/or Economy of the Soviet Union BobFromBrockley (talk) 05:49, 26 August 2026 (UTC)

Now done. If anyone wants to check if some of the removed material is missing from Economic planning systems of communist states or Economy of the Soviet Union they're free to do so. BobFromBrockley (talk) 11:18, 28 August 2026 (UTC)

Jaroslav Vanek

change ((Jaroslav Vanek)) to ((Jaroslav Vaněk)) ~2026-45448-18 (talk) 10:13, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

 Done, thanks. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 13:45, 21 August 2026 (UTC)