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[edit]- 1865—oblast within the Steppe Governor-Generalship, ruled from Orenburg;
- 1867—reorganized into a Governor-Generalship, subdivided into two oblasts, Syr-Darya and Semirechie.
- —Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 16:00, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
- (Minor changes Sikandarji 08:30, 3 May 2005 (UTC))
Merging with the "Transcaspian Region" Article
[edit]Certainly not. Transcaspia was governed from Tiflis until 1898 and hence not part of Russian Turkestan. Thereafter it was only one Oblast among five, (the others being Syr-Darya, Samarkand, Semirechie and Ferghana) all of which require equal treatment. If "Transcaspian Region" is to be merged with anything it ought to be the article on "Turkmenistan", as it is essentially the same area. (Sikandarji 20:51, 8 September 2005 (UTC))
Agree with above post. This article is about a historical region not just geographic one. It should be left as it is. Fisenko 05:29, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
Oppose a merge. LuiKhuntek 00:01, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Russian policy in turkestan
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08:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Proposed restructuring and article split
[edit]I propose a major reorganization to better serve readers interested in different aspects of this topic:
Current issue: This article conflates two distinct concepts: 1. Russian Turkestan as a historical/cultural region 2. The Turkestan Governor-Generalship as an administrative entity
Proposed solution:
Article 1: "Russian Turkestan" (this article - restructured) - Focus on the region under Russian rule as a cultural/social/economic entity - Emphasize: geography, population, economy, culture, daily life, social changes - Retain historical narrative but reduce administrative details - Target: readers interested in Central Asian history and society
Article 2: "Turkestan Governor-Generalship" (new article) - Focus on governmental structure, policies, administration - Detailed coverage of: governors list, oblast system, bureaucracy, military affairs - Legal and administrative aspects of Russian colonial rule - Target: readers interested in Imperial Russian governance
Benefits: - Clearer scope for each article - Better serves different reader needs - Allows proper development of social/cultural aspects currently underrepresented - Follows Wikipedia's principle of topic clarity
Implementation: I plan to first create the Governor-Generalship article, then gradually restructure this one, maintaining all current sources and adding new academic references.
Thoughts? --Andrey Kryuchenko (talk) 14:58, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- Was this comment produced by a generative AI? A09|(talk) 15:44, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
- No, I just use AI to edit my text because I'm not a native English speaker. Andrey Kryuchenko (talk) 11:38, 11 October 2025 (UTC)
- This is not a very big article, so no need to split out the two concepts. Leave them in one article where they will get better attention and can be consistent. Aszx5000 (talk) 19:36, 18 September 2025 (UTC)
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