Talk:Raindrop cake

Confusing paragraphs in the "Description" section.

I'm rather new to Wikipedia editing and not a native English speaker, so sorry if I make any mistakes in this discussion!

In the "Description" section, I think the wording is pretty confusing. It said that the dessert "must be eaten immediately, or it will melt and begin to evaporate after twenty to thirty minutes", yet in the following sentence, it is said that "in real life Agar does not melt at room temperature" and "takes lots of time to see the effect on the size/shape of the cake". Unfortunately, there's no citation on the latter sentence, and it makes me as a reader wonder if the previous sentence is just pure fiction (not "in real life").

Should I add "[citation needed]" to the last sentence, and update the overall description (not sure how)? Or should I simply remove the uncited sentence? Wawawari (talk) 10:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

"Raindrop cake" is not "mizu shingen mochi."

"水信玄餅" should be translated as "mizu shingen mochi," never "Raindrop cake." Conflating the two is like equating Japanese "Napolitan" pasta with Italy's traditional "Spaghetti alla napoletana." In the context of American cuisine, it’s akin to treating "Orange Chicken" as identical to the authentic Chinese dish "Chenpi Ji" (Tangerine Peel Chicken). While "Raindrop Cake" was inspired for the original dessert, it is a fundamentally different creation—and frankly, nothing more than an imitation.Ultimately, my point is that the naming is fundamentally incorrect. It should be changed to "Mizu Shingen Mochi" instead of "Raindrop Cake." I strongly believe the title needs to be updated. Phadow (talk) 02:43, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

What is "raindrop cake", then? I searched and have found no sources that distinguish between the two or introduce "raindrop cake" as a distinct item. The Wikidata QID of this page matches that of "水信玄餅" on Japanese Wikipedia (that is, the pages apparently are about the same thing). If you know of an item distinct from "水信玄餅" known as "raindrop cake", could you please elaborate on it? Blippy1998 (talk) 04:50, 27 August 2026 (UTC)

Hi. Simply put, Mizu Shingen Mochi is a Japanese confection made with agar and spring water from Mount Kaikoma. Meanwhile, the Raindrop Cake is an adaptation modeled after Mizu Shingen Mochi, sometimes substituting gelatin. Rather than defining it as "a wagashi" at the start of the article, it would be more accurate to say "a confection modeled after Mizu Shingen Mochi …". みしまるもも (talk) 07:16, 27 August 2026 (UTC)