Talk:Pot pie

9500 BC

The source provided uses this article as a source. A more reputable source is needed. DeeFeeCee (talk) 08:33, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Pot pie va other pies

What exactly makes something a pot pie as opposed to just a meat pie or savory pie? Duckduckgoop (talk) 04:39, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

No pastry underneath? A dish is the base and sides and pastry is used for the lid only? GraemeLeggett (talk) 19:06, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

American jargon? While the article claims this is British, I've never heard anyone in this country ever call this a pot pie.

By default I think Americans saying pie generally mean a fruit pie. Nickpheas (talk) 21:57, 7 March 2025 (UTC)

Its not an American term for a meat pie - i have added the north American def and link to a pie supplier who explains the difference Davidstewartharvey (talk) 13:58, 21 July 2026 (UTC)

its a very English pie still enjoyed here Sharnadd (talk) 07:05, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

Its not a phrase used in British language. The sources show British heritage but show its a north americans word. The source you added states that "But what about a filling simply topped with a pastry lid, or a pot pie, as its more commonly known in America?" In the UK its a pie which already has its own pages such as Meat pie, Chicken and mushroom pie, Steak and kidney pie. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 09:59, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

it is used in the UK and it is still.part if British cuisine. The discussion by British cooks in source 1 shows that it is in use still. You can still buy them in the UK and are still in recent British. Chef recipe books. It's very much still part of British cuisine Sharnadd (talk) 12:03, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

teo recent cookbooks by British chefs who have decent pot pie recipes in are tom kerridge who does traditional British food and the hairy bikers in their pie book Sharnadd (talk) 12:11, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

The reference from Great British Chef (source 1) I have quoted above. The University of Wyoming state Pot Pies are American, and this discussion on Quora shows that Brits do not consider Pot Pies british . Because they are in a chefs cookbook doesn't make them part of British cuisine - Mr Kerridge does a recipe for Bouillabaisse but thats not marked as British cuisine? If it was part of British cuisine it would have a British English section in the Oxford Dictionary but it doesn't - it only has a North American meaning. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 12:22, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

that they are from the UK and made in the UK and consumed in the UK makes them.part of British cuisine. Sharnadd (talk) 12:29, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

Can you please provide a valid source that shows pot pies are made and sold here? Do a Tesco, Sainsbury, Morrisons etc search, any of the British supermarkets and you will not find a pot pie avaliable. You will only find Pies. Same at specialist bakers . This review in square meal doesn't mention pot pies just pies . While restaurants like Putney Pies, mentioned in The Evening Standard's British Pie Week, dont serve Pot Pies, just pies. That the British Pie Week website doesn't mention Pot Pie gives it away. Americans use the traditional name for the dish, Brits don't. Americans do this to distinguish savoury from sweet, as Pot Pies are the only savoury pies that they have in their cuisine. Pies in American normally means sweet. Brits do not distinguish by name but by filling. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 13:57, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

yes specialist bakers do still make pot pies as do chefs . Yes pot pies are still a part of British cuisine Sharnadd (talk) 07:09, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

Again provide proof? You have not so refrain from making inaccurate edits or statements without backing them up Davidstewartharvey (talk) 14:59, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

you.mean apart from people using the term for this British pie in Britain. It being used by different British chefs in recent pie cookbooks. You want a specific bakery named as your evidence that it is no longer used as a term was a link to one bakery who doesn't use it . Which In your mind removes it from British cuisine Sharnadd (talk) 19:05, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

1 chef used it in his cook book does not make it part of British cuisine. As pointed out above he does do French recipes in his book which are not British cuisine. Also, in this video to find Best British pie which Mr Kerridge is in, there is no pot pie In Britain we call pies without a bottom crust top crust pies ir just pie. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 21:12, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

I mentioned more that one British chef who had recently put it in their cookbook. So you believe that as he didn't mention it in one video but put it in his pub kitchen British food bible that it's not classed as British cuisine It's a book on classic British food. The other I mentioned was the hairy bikers pie book where they did a book on British classic and included pot pie. So yes it is still part of british cuisine Sharnadd (talk) 07:09, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

Really? So why in source 3 tells the difference between British pues and "american" pot pies? It was not called a pot pie on Britain's Best Home Cook.. The BBC food has a classic savoury pie page , are any of them a pot pie? No. In fact on the list, which is a bottom less crust pie is just called Pie - no pot mentioned. And from the grandmother of British cooking, Mary Berry, a Chicken and bacon pie which again is bottomless but just called Pie. As stated before, the word is not in a British English dictionary - it would be if it was used. We just call it pie. Davidstewartharvey (talk) 15:07, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

yea really we do still use the word. Yes it is I many British cook books yes supermarkets do provide recipes for it as well yes it's still a word that's used in Britain yes it is in he British English dictionary as you call it. I have several volumes of the Oxford English dictionary and it is in there Sharnadd (talk) 16:13, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

Well thats funny! "The premise of your question contains an error: the Oxford English Dictionary has never classified "pot-pie" as a British English word. From its inception in the early 20th-century A New English Dictionary through all subsequent revisions, the OED has consistently labeled "pot-pie" as a U.S. (or North American) regional term." Davidstewartharvey (talk) 07:34, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

the Oxford English dictionary has never classified it as not a British English word. It's a British pie. Created in Britain, in British food bibles, bought In the UK. It also being available in America doesn't stop it being a British pie.why are you under thr false impression it can't be both Sharnadd (talk) 09:53, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

also the oxford English dictionary hasn't classified it as solely a us term Sharnadd (talk) 09:55, 24 August 2026 (UTC)

your last edit was inaccurate so I have corrected it to show that it is not an American pie just because it is now popular in the USA and that the turn is still used in many places in the UK Sharnadd (talk) 06:06, 2 September 2026 (UTC)

It's an english pie than Americans now enjoy. Sharnadd (talk) 06:52, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

i have added a link to describe why this English pie is called what it is. It is still a popular pie in the UK. It is down to the pie lid. A pot pie does traditionally not have crust on her bottom. Sharnadd (talk) 07:05, 4 August 2026 (UTC)

"Chicken pot pie" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Chicken pot pie has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2026 September 25 § Chicken pot pie until a consensus is reached. Thepharoah17 (talk) 07:10, 26 September 2026 (UTC)