Talk:OODA loop
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Article needs an explanation on how the model is used
[edit]The article currently does not explain how the OODA loop model is applied, nor is there an explanation of what the four stages (Observe, Orient, Decide, Act) mean. With the Brexit example in the last paragraph, it is not made clear how the OODA loops of the Britain Stronger in Europe campaign were disrupted by the Vote Leave campaign, nor is it made clear what it means for the OODA loop to be disrupted. --MtPenguinMonster (talk) 09:20, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
Historical facts missing
[edit]When was this model first developed? Applied? Where and by whom? With what successes and failures? Which models did it displace or supersede? Which models have been developed from it or influenced by it or in opposition to it? Is the model relevant today, and if so, where and to whom?
There are so many factual questions that need answers before the reader can successfully place this model in context. yoyo (talk) 01:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
Key sentence contains oversimplification, needs tweaking
[edit]"An entity (whether an individual or an organization) that can process this cycle quickly, observing and reacting to unfolding events more rapidly than an opponent, can thereby get inside the opponent's decision cycle and gain the advantage."
Isn't this considered a common oversimplification? An entity can also "get inside an opponent's decision cycle" by disrupting the opponents cycle. There are many sources available including some this article uses.
This is "SLIDE 141 from Boyd's lecture "PATTERNS OF CONFLICT"
"Penetrate adversary's moral-mental-physical being to dissolve his moral fiber, disorient his mental images, disrupt his operations, and overload his system..." CaptCarlsen (talk) 11:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
One source that expands on this is "A New Concept of War" by Ian Brown page 143.
"Some maneuverists clung to the idea of absolute speed, saying, “You go fast, you go fast.” Boyd responded, “Christ, we’ll all drive each other nuts.” Speed for speed’s sake was unnecessary. Relative speed was the key, and this could be achieved by degrading the adversary:" — Preceding unsigned comment added by CaptCarlsen (talk • contribs) 11:46, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
Not so much a Decision Model?
[edit]As Frans P.B. Osinga claims, the OODA loop is ‘much less a model of decision-making than a model of individual and organisational learning and adaptation’ (2007, p. 235) – CaptCarlsen (talk) 20:04, 20 January 2026 (UTC)