Talk:Mestra

How about a move back to Mestra?

At some point I'd like to move this article back to Mestra (where it began) per WP:MOSTCOMMON, so I post my rationale now in case there are any objections. To my knowledge, in antiquity she was called "Mestra" by every author who mentions her by name (Hes. Cat. fr. 43a, Palaephatus 23, Paradoxograph. Vat. 32, Tzetzes, Chil. 2.47.668 etc., Anon. Astrolog. apud M.A.F. Sangin, Codices Rossici, p. 12.141, TSchol. Hom. Il. 6.191b), except for Antoninus Liberalis, who calls her Hypermestra, not Hypermnestra as the article previously had it. (No Latin authors refer to her by name, right?) This would, in my mind, justify the move, but, more importantly for WP, modern scholarly usage favors Mestra. A JSTOR search for "Mnestra" yields only three articles which use this name, and these all have to do with Ovid, who never names the daughter (G.B. Riddehough, "Man-into-Beast Changes in Ovid", Phoenix 13 (1959) 201–9; E.J. Kenney, "Textual Notes on Ovid, Metamorphoses 7-9", CQ 51 (2001) 545–50; W.S. Anderson, "Multiple Change in the Metamorphoses", TAPA 94 (1963) 1–27; Tarrant correctly lists references to her s.v. Mestra in the index nominum to his Metamorphoses). A search for "Mestra", on the other hand, gives a few dozen items, including a good number of articles which have to do specifically with the shape-shifter in question. Any thoughts? — the cardiff chestnut | talk — 18:53, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

 Done. The user who made the initial move concurs, and I doubt that much input would be forthcoming from any other direction, so I just moved the page. — the cardiff chestnut | talk — 02:24, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Popular culture reference

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