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Incorrectly sourced information
[edit]Hello editors, I would like to make a suggestion for the History section. I noticed there are a few things in this section that are either unsourced (and without alternative sourcing available) or it has a source which does not actually verify the information written. Because of this, I would like to propose updating the sentences or removing them when this is not possible.
Sentences where the source does not verify the information
- Live article content: Logitech was founded in Apples, Vaud, Switzerland, in 1981, by Daniel "Bobo" Borel, Pierluigi Zappacosta, and former Olivetti engineer Giacomo Marini. Swiss-born Borel and Italian-born Zappacosta had met in California while taking electrical engineering classes in the late 1970s at Stanford University, under professors such as Ethernet inventor Robert Metcalfe.[1]
- Live article content: The company founders first concentrated on creating word processing software for a large Swiss company, but the company canceled the project. Next, they turned to the computer mouse as an essential component of the graphical user interface used by a workstation requested by the Japanese company Ricoh. Logitech's first mouse, the P4 model, was produced in 1982 in Switzerland, based on an opto-mechanical design by Swiss inventor Jean-Daniel Nicoud working at the École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (Federal Institute of Technology in Lausanne).[1]
- Remove: In 1984, Logitech won a contract to supply Hewlett-Packard with computer mice in the role of original equipment manufacturer (OEM). The mice that Logitech supplied to HP were made in a new factory in Fremont, California, and they were branded HP: they did not display the Logitech name.[8]
Some other sentences rely on only press releases, see below:
- Remove: On 25 March 2017, Logitech signed a multi-year sponsorship deal with McLaren as the Official Technology Peripherals Partner.[9] The deal would later be extended to McLaren's eSports endeavours under the Logitech G brand in 2020.[10]
- Live article content: On 30 October 2023, Logitech announced that Hanneke Faber would be taking over as the new CEO beginning December 1, 2023.[11]
- Alternative with proper sourcing: In December 2023, Hanneke Faber, became Logitech’s chief executive officer.[12]
Generally speaking, I would also be curious whether the following meet the current guidelines on sources:
References
- 1 2 Metcalfe, Bob (9 November 1992). "Reverse Pied Piper of mice has senses working overtime". InfoWorld. Vol. 14, no. 45. ISSN 0199-6649.
- ↑ "Logitech, The Mousemaker That Roared". Forbes. 28 Aug 2000. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ "Logitech founder: 'We were lucky'". BBC News. 27 August 2010. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ "Swiss mouse-maker continues to roar". South China Morning Post. 3 March 2003. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Pescia, Marzio (18 July 2006). "logitech: here, there and everywhere". Swiss Info. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ McGlaun, Shane (8 December 2008). "Logitech says it has shipped a billion mice". Ars Technica. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Turi, Jon (7 December 2014). "The 'mouse' and its many mutations". Engadget. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Verbeke, Alain; Lee, I. H. Ian (2021). International Business Strategy: Rethinking the Foundations of Global Corporate Success. Cambridge University Press. p. 40. ISBN 9781108488037.
- ↑ "McLaren Racing - McLaren-Honda Teams Up with Logitech as Official Technology Peripherals Partner". www.mclaren.com. Archived from the original on 12 August 2022. Retrieved 2022-08-12.
- ↑ "McLaren Racing - Logitech G and McLaren usher in a new era of racing". www.mclaren.com. Archived from the original on 12 August 2022. Retrieved 2022-08-12.
- ↑ "Logitech Appoints Hanneke Faber as Chief Executive Officer". www.businesswire.com. 2023-10-30. Retrieved 2023-11-01.
- ↑ Hill, Andrew (30 Nov 2025). "Logitech CEO: 'The mouse built this house'". Financial Times. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Abby (4 January 2021). "Computer Mouse: Complete History". History Computer. Archived from the original on 2026-01-30. Retrieved 20 August 2023.
- ↑ "History of Computer Mouse (1964 ~ 2020)". Gearrate. Archived from the original on 20 August 2023. Retrieved August 20, 2023.
Thanks Logitech Maya (talk) 16:43, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- I don't see why the Olivetti origin of Marini would be removed. It's present in sources such as 2013's Swiss Made by R. James Breiding. The same source supports Borel being from Switzerland and Zappacosta being from Italy, which you aim to remove for no good reason. The fact that Borel and Zappacosta were being taught about the early internet is important. Breiding writes that they found out about Nicoud's mouse development on Arpanet, and used Ricoh money to work with Nicoud on improving the mouse to develop the P4 model. It makes no sense to me that you want to remove these details which humanize the origin story. You are aiming for bland and boring. Binksternet (talk) 17:14, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
- I am folding this request into a new one, so I removed this from the COI queue to reduce redundancies. There did not seem to be a way to keep the template and close it without denying or approving the request, so I simply removed the template. Let me know if there is a better way to do this. Thanks! Logitech Maya (talk) 19:34, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
History section rewritten proposal
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Hello editors. Following feedback from editors, I rewrote my proposal for the History section to remove promotional detail and retain more of the current section's narrative. I presented it above but am moving it here so it can be added to the COI queue. Additionally, I closed out the request above since this is just an expanded version of the same thing.
Below is the proposal of the new content followed by a comparison between the proposal and the current section. The changes made between the two versions include:
- updated sourcing to something more reliable (ex: Business Wire press release to Financial Times)
- updating sources when the current one doesn't actually verify the claim, also sometimes requiring rewrites to what the new source verifies (ex: InfoWorld does not verify the information it is attached to)
- removing content when the source does not verify the information it is attached to and an alternative source was not found (ex: History Computer did not verify the information and I could not find alternative sourcing)
- adding new information. This includes:
- The name is short for the French “logiciel" and “technologique”
- PC cameras in 1999
- This detail is important because it shows the shift in company's trajectory from just computer mice for consumers
- 2017 SEC fine
- This is currently in the Controversies section, which I will elaborate below. I did adjust the language as well to both streamline it.
- COVID-19 increased demand
- The pandemic caused increased sales and the aftermath several years later was a decline back to pre-pandemic figures. News reports frequently reported on this and how pandemic financials were unusual, showing its significance.
Editors had noted that the section seemed too positive and thus promotional, so in addition to adjusting the wording for tone, I also am suggesting that some of the information in the Controversies section be moved here. This would balance the History section.
I did not move the 2026 Douyin account information to the History section because instead, I believe it should be deleted along with the Controversies heading. The 2026 Douyin account information is not well sourced and I did not locate alternative sourcing. If this is deleted and the SEC fee moved, that would leave the section empty so the heading should be removed. This would also be in line with WP:CRIT anyway, which discourages generally named "controversies" sections. This is another reason I am proposing the SEC fee be removed, since it does not appear to be enough information to be a standalone section if Controversies were to be renamed.
Below I have my proposal for editors to consider. I made a diff in my user space as well to show the differences.
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History Logitech was founded in Apples, Vaud, Switzerland, in 1981, by Daniel "Bobo" Borel, Pierluigi Zappacosta, and former Olivetti engineer Giacomo Marini.[1] Swiss-born Borel and Italian-born Zappacosta had met in California while taking electrical engineering classes in the late 1970s at Stanford University before returning to Europe. In 1981, Japanese company Ricoh requested a feasibility study for software. Logitech's first mouse, the P4 model, was the product of their work for Ricoh and by 1982, the company pivoted to mouse production as their business.[1] Marini joined them and the funds from Ricoh were used to set up Logitech in Apples.[1] The name is short for the French “logiciel" and “technologique”.[2][3] It opened offices at 165 University Avenue, Palo Alto, California.[4] Borel served as chairman of the board, focused on sales and manufacturing, and he was chief executive officer (CEO) for most of the 1990s. Zappacosta served as president and a period as CEO, and he oversaw research. He left Logitech in 1997 to lead Digital Persona, a biometrics company.[5] Two years after the P4, Logitech designed the first cordless mouse.[6][7] It entered the retail market in 1985.[6] In 1988, Logitech expanded from the mouse industry with a handheld scanner.[8] During the next decade, the company expanded more with wireless keyboards and game controllers for consoles and PCs.[9] In 1991, the Logitech MouseMan was released as its first radio-based cordless mouse.[10] Logitech re-organized their manufacturing in 1994, shutting down Fremont operations and opening a major facility in Suzhou, China. The Cork, Ireland, location downsized to become an R&D center, and the Hsinchu, Taiwan, factory was kept only for test runs and prototypes.[11] By 1996, it had sold its 100 millionth mouse.[6] The next year it went public on the Nasdaq.[12] Logitech bought the Connectix webcam division in 1998 for $25 million, then released QuickCam, the first webcam with an integrated microphone.[5] Logitech launched PC cameras in 1999 for video communications in the professional sector in order to target video on the internet and further move to peripheral product offerings.[13] By 2000, Logitech was the leader in global sales of webcams, with approximately four million units sold.[5] That year, Guerrino De Luca, a former Apple executive became president and chief executive officer.[14] Logitech surpassed $1 billion in annual revenue in FY 2000 and by 2003, it had shipped 500 million mice.[14][6] In December 2008, the company announced it had produced its one-billionth computer mouse since beginning production in 1985.[15] That year, Logitech acquired Ultimate Ears for in-ear monitors and Bluetooth speakers.[16] In January 2013, Bracken Darrell became Logitech's chief executive officer; then-CEO Guerrino De Luca continued as Logitech's chairman of the board.[17] In April 2016, Logitech paid a $7.5 million fine to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission following accusations of improper accounting, including artificial inflation of financial results in the 2011 fiscal year.[18] Increased remote work from the COVID-19 pandemic increased demand for Logitech's home office peripherals.[19][20] By 2021, post-pandemic profit more than tripled its profit.[21] As workers returned to office, sales fell and by 2023, its earnings were stabilizing to pre-pandemic levels. [22] On 29 July 2021, Logitech, in collaboration with choreographer JaQuel Knight, introduced its #Creators4BIPOC initiative under the Logitech For Creators brand. It allows social media creators, particularly BIPOC influencers, to copyright and monetize their online creations by making it possible for choreographers who amplify attention to hits by major artists in the entertainment business to secure copyright of their choreography using Labanotation and earn royalties from it.[23][24] In June 2023, Bracken Darrell (former CEO) left Logitech and board member Guy Gecht took over as interim CEO.[25] In December 2023, Hanneke Faber, became Logitech’s chief executive officer.[26] This appointment made Faber the only female CEO of a Swiss Market Index company at the time she joined Logitech. [27] References
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Pinging Sibshops and Binksternet to alert you of the new discussion location. If there are any questions, let me know! Logitech Maya (talk) 19:33, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
- Why did you remove the fact that the first company effort was in word processing?
- Why did you erase Jean-Daniel Nicoud who was foundational in the first mouse design?
- Why did you remove the Metcalfe 1992 InfoWorld source?
- Metcalfe, Bob (9 November 1992). "Reverse Pied Piper of mice has senses working overtime". InfoWorld. Vol. 14, no. 45. ISSN 0199-6649.
- After seeing these three problems I stopped looking at your suggested change. I don't agree with removing the things you want to remove. Binksternet (talk) 20:03, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
- Binksternet I will answer your questions but want to preface by saying that it seems that this draft still needs work. I am going to try and re-incorporate more of the current History section into my draft and step back from this thread to rework my draft. In the meantime, I will present different suggestions while I rework this History proposal.
- But to answer your question, the items you identified were removed because the Metcalfe 1992 InfoWorld source did not verify the two claims above. It mentions word processing, but not "for a large Swiss company, but the company canceled the project". "Jean-Daniel Nicoud" was not mentioned at all in the source. Because Infoworld presented these issues, and was written by the founder's former professor, I used an alternative source with fewer issues: A 2013 book called 'From supercomputers to mice'. Swiss Made The Untold Story Behind Switzerland's Success.
- That being said, if you believe this should be retained, I will rework it into that new proposal I referenced. Logitech Maya (talk) 21:27, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
Operations
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Hello editors. The article currently is missing general company information. This includes the headquarters, which is in the introduction but my understanding is content there needs to be in the article itself too. Similarly, public trading and the number of employees.
The reason I did not suggest something like "Corporate overview" for this section is because I also would like editors to consider placing the current Production section in this new section as a subheading.
The first sentence in the current Production section is not well sourced; it uses a Medium blog and a profile on a defunct, non journalistic site. The following graf is outdated, with its information current as of 2005.
This proposal below uses better sources, provides more robust background history, and has a 2025 update for production:
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Operations (section heading) Shares of Logitech are listed on both the SIX Swiss Exchange and on the Nasdaq Global Select Market.[5][6] Logitech had 7,300 employees, as of 2025.[7] 50 students from EPFL interned at Logitech in 2025.[8] Production (subsection heading) The manufacturing operations in China produce approximately half of Logitech's products. The remaining production is outsourced to contract manufacturers and original design manufacturers in Asia.[12] Over time, manufacturing moved from Ireland to Taiwan and to Shanghai, China to Suzhou, China.[13][14] By 2025, Logitech had expanded beyond Chinda and added production in Malaysia, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Mexico.[15] References
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Please let me know what you think! Logitech Maya (talk) 21:27, 6 May 2026 (UTC)
- pinging Sibshops and Binksternet on this request due to their previous interest. Logitech Maya (talk) 00:44, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
Reply 13-JUN-2026
[edit]- The claim
The manufacturing operations in China produce approximately half of Logitech's products
does not cohere with a quote from CEO Bracken Darrell in the Bloomberg source provided by the COI editor, where Darrell stateswe make everything in China
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Regards, Spintendo 06:54, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
Products line section
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While the above request is being considered, I would like to suggest an additional proposal for editors to review.
Currently, the article has a Products line section, which is limited in scope. It has an outdated bullet point list without any citations. I would like to suggest first renaming this section Products to expand the scope. Additionally, the list should be removed and replaced with more substantive information. My proposal suggests a similarly named "Lines and offerings" subheading with sourced information.
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Logitech produces computer peripherals. Its products include mice, keyboards, webcams, audio equipment, and game controllers. Logitech sells products in 24 categories as of 2018.[1] After initially starting with computer mice and later computer keyboards, by 2004 Logitech had expanded into other peripheral offerings.[2] Hewlett-Packard became its first large OEM customer in 1994.[3] By 2004, other large companies such as Apple, Dell, Sony, and Microsoft were also customers.[2] A series of acquisitions in 2008 bolstered its audio product offerings.[1] By 2012, Logitech started moving into video conferencing.[1] Lines and offerings (subheading) Logitech has two businesses: its mainline, eponymous offerings and the Logitech G gaming division for professional esports and casual gaming peripherals.[4][5] Product series under Logitech include MX,[6] Ergo,[7] G-series,[8] and Pro.[9] The MX series was launched in 2015 with the MX Master mouse.[10] The MX Master line has Mac specific version of its products.[11] The fourth iteration of the MX Mouse was revealed on the series' tenth anniversary and introduced haptic technology.[10] Logitech G HUB is the brand's app for controlling devices.[12] References
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Please let me know what you think! Logitech Maya (talk) 00:44, 27 May 2026 (UTC)
Reply 13-JUN-2026
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Thank you! Regards, Spintendo 06:54, 14 June 2026 (UTC)
Revised Operations section request
[edit]| The user below has a request that an edit be made to Logitech. That user has an actual or apparent conflict of interest. Summary of request: Add Operations section The requested edits backlog is very high. Please be extremely patient. There are currently 611 requests waiting for review.Please read the instructions for the parameters used by this template for accepting and declining them, and review the request below and make the edit if it is well sourced, neutral, and follows other Wikipedia guidelines and policies. |
Hello, I have a request to add an Operations section using the draft below in the collapse box. Here are the specifics of the request:
Request: Add Operations section
- Specific change: Add a section with the heading name Operations
- Exact location: Directly after the Acquisitions section
- Reasons for change: There is not a section right now where corporate information could easily go, because "Production" is narrow in focus.
Request: Add information to Operations section
- Description: Add headquarters, trading, and employee information to this section.
- Specific change: Add the following:
Shares of Logitech are listed on both the SIX Swiss Exchange and on the Nasdaq Global Select Market.[5][6]
Logitech had 7,300 employees, as of 2026.[7] It also offers an internship program including students from École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne.[8]
References
- ↑ Brillet, Frédéric. "The Swiss Federal Institute of Technology Lausanne (EPFL): a talent supplier". Les Echos (in French). Retrieved 9 January 2026.
- ↑ "Logitech, The Mousemaker That Roared". Forbes. 28 Aug 2000. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Revill, John (22 January 2015). "Logitech Back on the Path to Growth--CEO". Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Williams, Trey (April 23, 2024). "How Logitech used meeting room webcams to help redesign its U.S. office". Fortune. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Soon, Stella (10 July 2019). "Logitech's gaming and video conferencing businesses have 'billion-dollar potential,' says CEO". CNBC. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Revill, John (21 January 2016). "Logitech's Shares Surge on Full-Year Guidance After Record Sales". Wall Street Journal. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ "Logitech FORM 10-K" (PDF). United States Securities And Exchange Commission. United States Securities And Exchange Commission. Retrieved 7 July 2026.
- ↑ Affolter, Christian Affolter (June 10, 2025). "«Le cœur de notre machine à innover se trouve à l'EPFL, le MIT européen»". Agefi (in French). Retrieved 9 January 2026.
- Exact location: Very top of new Operations section
- Reasons for change: Adds encyclopedic information about the company's functions not currently in this article.
Request: Move Production section
- Specific change: Move the Production section as a subsection within proposed Operations
- Exact location: at end of Operations section
- Verbatim text and/or references to be removed: Production heading name
- Reasons for change: This is operational information and better suited here.
Request: Remove text Production section
- Specific change: Remove the text within this section
- Exact location: Currently in the Production section
- Verbatim text and/or references to be removed:
Production facilities were then established in the United States, Taiwan, Hungary and Ireland before being moved to Suzhou, China. As of 2005[update], the manufacturing operations in China produce approximately half of Logitech's products. The remaining production is outsourced to contract manufacturers and original design manufacturers in Asia.[3]
References
- ↑ Vetterli, Martin (2018-11-23). "A brief story of innovation". Medium. Archived from the original on 17 October 2020. Retrieved 2020-07-28.
- ↑ "Logitech". oldmouse.com. Archived from the original on 7 February 2020. Retrieved 2020-07-28.
- ↑ "How Logitech Protects Its Manufacturing Secrets in China". Bloomberg.com. 2013-10-02. Archived from the original on 29 April 2018. Retrieved 2018-04-28.
- Reasons for change: 1) Medium and "oldmouse .com" do not meet the sourcing standards of this site. 2) sourcing does not support "approximately half of Logitech's products" claim 3) remaining information will be requested for new location
Request: Add information Production subsection
- Description: Add content to the proposed Production subsection within the proposed Operations section
- Specific change: Add the following,
Logitech's manufacturing started in Ireland and later moved to Taiwan, then finally to China.[4] Logitech since then has expanded production to Malaysia, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Mexico.[5] In response to tariffs, Logitech shifted its production in 2025 for its goods sold in the United States. Prior to this, 40 percent of items sold in the United States were made in China.[6] By 2026, this was reduced to less than 10 percent.[7]
References
- ↑ "How Logitech Protects Its Manufacturing Secrets in China". Bloomberg.com. 2013-10-02. Archived from the original on 29 April 2018. Retrieved 2018-04-28.
- ↑ "Gadget giant Logitech sets sights on something special for China". South China Morning Post. 6 April 2010. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ Brookes, Robert (20 April 2005). "Mighty mouse gears up for more growth". Swiss Info. Retrieved 10 December 2025.
- ↑ "How Logitech Protects Its Manufacturing Secrets in China". Bloomberg.com. 2013-10-02. Archived from the original on 29 April 2018. Retrieved 2018-04-28.
- ↑ Revill, John (July 30, 2025). "Logitech has made progress in shifting production from China, CEO says". Reuters. Retrieved 30 January 2026.
- ↑ Revill, John (30 April 2025). "Logitech to shift some production from China to counter Trump tariffs". Reuters. Retrieved 1 July 2026.
- ↑ Revill, John (27 Jan 2026). "Computer mouse maker Logitech posts best quarterly profit since pandemic". Reuters. Retrieved 1 July 2026.
- Exact location: End of proposed Operations section
- Reasons for change:
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Operations (section heading) Logitech's main headquarters are in Switzerland[1] Logitech has had its United States-based offices in Fremont, California,[2] Newark, California[3] and as of 2025, is based in San Jose, California.[4] Shares of Logitech are listed on both the SIX Swiss Exchange and on the Nasdaq Global Select Market.[5][6] Logitech had 7,300 employees, as of 2026.[7] It also offers an internship program including students from EPFL.[8] Production (subsection heading) Logitech's manufacturing started in Ireland and later moved to Taiwan, then finally to China.[12] Logitech since then has expanded production to Malaysia, Taiwan, Thailand, Vietnam, and Mexico.[13] In response to tariffs, Logitech shifted its production in 2025 for its goods sold in the United States. Prior to this, 40 percent of items sold in the United States were made in China.[14] By 2026, this was reduced to less than 10 percent.[15] References
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Summary of request: Please consider adding an Operations section with a Production subheading to replace the current Production section. This would give an appropriate spot for corporate information and other broad details to and organize the information in a more logical way. The text proposed is either new or moved text and some information was removed due to sourcing issues. Please let me know if there are any questions, thanks! Logitech Maya (talk) 23:09, 20 July 2026 (UTC)
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