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Initial quick feedback
[edit]- On an initial look, I'm not sure about sourcing to direct tweets. Do they qualify as a Reliable Source?
- Also, I think being a finalist for the Livingston Award is not so notable? Winning the award has definitely been hard for lots of people. Finalist? Not so notable.
- A section that bothers me: recounting the reviews of the movie. The two or three linked reviews all seem to be cherrypicked for their negativity, while the movie actually has OK to decent ratings on IMDB and Metacritic. This sentence in particular seemed to misrepresent the source: "The subject of the film, Kevin McKay, said he raised concerns about the movie's inaccuracies prior to its release."
I think the section could be reworked and at least one more neutral to positive review could be added.
An example of a Wikipedia entry on an accomplished female journalist who started out young in the profession, and I'm pretty sure tried for the Livingston and apparently didn't get it. She got more stuff later though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paige_Williams_(author)
- An example of a Wikipedia entry on a foreign correspondent:
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Colvin
- Underoke (talk) 03:21, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
- The movie review quotes are focused on the accuracy or journalistic integrity of the storytelling, since that is what is relevant for this page, but the movie did receive positive feedback for other elements such as the acting and special effects. The general commentary on the movie's sensitivity to the true story was negative, from what I could find.
- Here is the cited section of the Kevin McKay article: "McKay remembered that when he first watched the movie, he was concerned with inexact details. 'I don’t know if I agree with this and maybe we should change this and maybe we should change that,' he said. 'A lot of those things that happen to me on the big screen are kind of a 5 to 10-year picture of my life that’s been compressed into just one day.'"
- Other Wikipedia pages for journalists only mention movie adaptations extremely briefly. (For example: Michael Lewis, Susan Orlean, Nancy Jo Sales) That approach could also be fair. But I think if we consider a movie to be worth multiple sentences as part of a body of journalistic work, then the work's accuracy is important context. ~2026-22826-53 (talk) 19:40, 21 April 2026 (UTC)
- After thinking about it, I deleted the movie review information to be consistent with other journalists' pages. ~2026-22826-53 (talk) 01:16, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- Makes sense. If she were the lead writer, might be different. If the movie were billed as a documentary, might be different.
- Now I’m reading/viewing deep on Amy Chozick, who appears to have successfully made the leap from reporter to TV producer/writer. It’s not an easy thing! She had lots of help with “The Girls on the Bus,” clearly billed as fiction.
- So thanks for that. Great 6-minute preview video of “The Girls on the Bus" over on YouTube. Underoke (talk) 16:22, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- After thinking about it, I deleted the movie review information to be consistent with other journalists' pages. ~2026-22826-53 (talk) 01:16, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
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