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Latest comment: 2 years ago by 77.233.220.41 in topic Zigzags of lithuanian linguistics

Mistakes

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Hi,

There are few mistakes in original article. An example with car is comming should be written "Automobilis atvažiuoja" and "Atvažiuoja automobilis" because "ateina" is used for 'comming by foot' and "atvažiuoja" is used for 'arriving by motor/wheeled wehicle'.

j (jp@seminte.lt)

areas where Lithuanian was dominant language (XVI map in the article)

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1) That doesn't go along with the 1528 army census where the vast majority of soldiers from Grodno, Lida, Molodechno, even from Vilkamir, have slavic names-lastnames. 2) Why do you call language spoken by balts in XVI century a lithuanian languageg, when foreigners usualy referred to state language of GDL as lithuanian language?  Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.64.70.193 (talk) 22:57, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Zigzags of lithuanian linguistics

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"By studying place names of Lithuanian origin, linguist Jan Safarewicz concluded that the eastern boundaries of Lithuanian used to be in the shape of zigzags through Grodno, Shchuchyn, Lida, Valozhyn, Svir, and Braslaw."
All these names are of genuine Slavic origin, no Lithuanian.
And "Safarewicz's eastern boundaries were moved even further to the south and east by other scholars" ;-)  Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.233.220.41 (talk) 07:13, 4 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Attitude of Rotundus

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Polish-born Augustinus Rotundus, .... urged Grand Duke Sigismund II Augustus to use less Muscovite language in all spheres of life and to instead use the Lithuanian language more frequently.

Rotundus did not advocate for the use of the Lithuanian language. Rather, he urged the use of Latin, which he considered the true ancestral language of the Lithuanian nobility. According to the legendary Myth of Palemon, he wrote that the original Lithuanian nobles spoke Latin when they first arrived from Italy. Upon settling in Lithuania, these nobles subjugated the local population, turning them into serfs. Over time, these local peasants absorbed some Latin vocabulary from their masters, while the nobility abandoned their native Latin in favor of the Polish and Ruthenian languages.

Lituanos ab Italis originem ducere, sermo agrestium, multum ad sermonem Italorum, tanto locorum et temporum intervallo, accedens, verisimile facit; nam nobiliores ex consuetudine, quam cum Polonis et Russis, ob commune imperium habent, Polono et Russo sermone, nativum permutarunt.

References [1] [2] [3]

  1. Statuta Magni Ducatus Lituaniae [...] a 1566 approbata. p. 37.
  2. Archiwum Komisji Prawniczej. T. 7. p. 26.
  3. Epitome Principum Lituaniae. p. 94.