Talk:Lila Rose
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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 May 2023
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In 2022, Lila Rose appeared on Dr Phil. https://www.drphil.com/videos/anti-abortion-activist-lila-rose-says-media-mischaracterizes-pro-life-community/
Rose was featured in a VICE documentary shortly after Roe v. Wade was overturned, titled "How the Anti-Abortion Rights Movement Took Down Roe" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDafHP4pjD0 Johnysaint345 (talk) 00:31, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lizthegrey (talk) 04:49, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 July 2024
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Please correct the number of her children in the info box from 1 to 3.
In addition, please change the text in "Personal Life" from "Rose is married and has a son." to "Rose is married and has three children."
Please see this independent source: https://www.ncregister.com/news/nec-lila-rose
It contains this paragraph: "Now about almost six years ago, I married my husband, Joe, an incredible man of faith. We have three beautiful children that we have been blessed with, thanks be to God. I’m here with my 3-month-old daughter, Genevieve."
This is confirmed by this 3rd party link or the organization she works for: https://www.liveaction.org/media/meet-lila-rose/
"A native of the San Francisco Bay Area, Lila lives in California with her husband, two sons, and daughter."
In addition there are two sources of her own social media:
https://x.com/LilaGraceRose/status/1784348730604523885
Concerning the genders of her children she writes about the new baby: "She seems like an old soul to me. Big brothers are in love."
In addition, she mentions at minute 49:00 in this video "We just had our third child." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xHGy2Y0SSo&t=514s. The video was published yesterday.
This is really important for her activism as it now looks like she has fewer children than the average American while in fact she has more. Aecur (talk) 14:44, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- That would be SELF-SOURCED WP:SPS and promotional. WP:PROMOTION This type of statement needs to be sourced from an INDEPENDENT, third-party source to be included in this article. Please see WP:IS---Avatar317(talk) 22:59, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, thanks, I've added an article by the New Catholic Register as an external source (the same source that said she had one child a few years ago and currently referenced in the footnotes) Aecur (talk) 11:21, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Done However, Aecur, that "independent source" is just a transcript of a speech that Rose gave. While it's technically not a SPS anymore, it wouldn't fall under a secondary source either. All that being said, @Avatar317: There are exceptions to using self-published sources when the author is the subject themselves (WP:BLPSELFPUB,WP:ABOUTSELF), which I believe this falls under anyway. – macaddct1984 (talk | contribs) 14:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Actually I put one more source earlier already. It is from liveaction.org giving a profile of Rose as a contributor.
- Note also that all 4 links agree on the number of children.
- Sorry, I had not understood at first that the change had been completed. Thanks again for that. Aecur (talk) 14:10, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
PP "sting" section is highly selective
[edit]The coverage of the sting on this article is:
"In 2007, Rose visited two Planned Parenthood facilities in Los Angeles and recorded undercover videos while purporting to be a 15-year-old girl who had been impregnated by a 23-year-old male who was accompanying her, telling staffers she did not want her parents to find out about the relationship. No employee at either clinic objected to the situation, and a receptionist at one facility "told Rose to say she was 16, because if she was 15, the clinic would have to make a report to the police." Rose has posed as an abortion-seeking teen impregnated by an older man in additional stings at Planned Parenthood clinics in Indianapolis, Bloomington, Tucson, Phoenix and Memphis. According to Politico, "Within the anti-abortion community, Rose has been widely lauded for her undercover investigations into abortion clinics.""
On the Project Veritas article, it is:
"In 2006, O'Keefe met Lila Rose, the founder of an anti-abortion group on the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA) campus. They secretly recorded encounters in Planned Parenthood clinics in Los Angeles and Santa Monica, in which Rose posed as a 15-year-old girl impregnated by a 23-year-old man. Rose and O'Keefe made two videos incorporating heavily edited versions of the recordings and released them on YouTube. The video omitted the parts of the conversation in which a Planned Parenthood employee asked Rose to consult her mother about the pregnancy and another employee told her, "We have to follow the laws." Rose took down those videos after Planned Parenthood sent her a cease and desist letter in May 2007 asserting that the videos violated California's voice recording laws, which require consent from all recorded parties, but they continued to make more clandestine videos."
The coverage on this article is directly contradicted by the coverage on the Project Veritas article:
- "No employee at either clinic objected to the situation," here, "The video omitted the parts of the conversation in which a Planned Parenthood employee asked Rose to consult her mother about the pregnancy and another employee told her, "We have to follow the laws."" there.
The coverage on this article is blatantly omitting relevant info:
- "According to Politico, "Within the anti-abortion community, Rose has been widely lauded for her undercover investigations into abortion clinics.""" here, but on the Veritas article, it's mentioned that she had to take down the videos for legal concerns.
- No mention on this article, at all, about the video being selectively edited or omitting content.
Considering that the deceptive videos were a major news story at the time and are the main thing Lila is known to the public for, it's bewildering that this article omits this content.
I'd like to request that this article be revised to be more in line with the more comprehensive coverage on the Veritas article, by inserting this section (with sources from Veritas article)
"Rose and O'Keefe made two videos incorporating heavily edited versions of the recordings and released them on YouTube. The video omitted the parts of the conversation in which a Planned Parenthood employee asked Rose to consult her mother about the pregnancy and another employee told her, "We have to follow the laws." Rose took down those videos after Planned Parenthood sent her a cease and desist letter in May 2007 asserting that the videos violated California's voice recording laws, which require consent from all recorded parties, but they continued to make more clandestine videos.""
in between "police." and "Rose".Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 16:22, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Your addition sounds good to me. I guess any Wikipedia article's quality depends on the motivation and interest of volunteers to improve it, so it is not surprising that we have inconsistencies, but your edit should improve it, Thanks! ---Avatar317(talk) 00:35, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 21 September 2025
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The external links page section, "[Profile](https://www.liveaction.org/media/meet-lila-rose/) at Live Action" leads to a 404 page at the Live Action website, and should be removed or updated. Diagram5963 (talk) 03:41, 21 September 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 17 April 2026
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Add that Rose is of Italian descent (source- https://www.instagram.com/p/DC5UqLvSzHV/) ~2026-11251-97 (talk) 01:05, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
Not done: Please see our policy on ethnicity and this essay on race and decent in articles. ScrubbedFalcon (talk) 12:00, 17 April 2026 (UTC)
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