Talk:Khakas

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"They have beards"??!! what, all of them, even the women??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.165.108.154 (talk) 16:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

That's why I think the physical description is useless (and maybe somewhat racist). Instead, maybe we can use pictures to show how the people generally look, and their traditional clothes too. 75.170.82.115 (talk) 06:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

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Yenisei Kyrgyz

Khakas are not called "Yenisei Kyrgyz". If you disagree, please cite the source that says that Khakas are called Yenisey Kyrgyz. The cited source Kara, Dávid Somfai (2018) does not say so. --Altenmann >talk 03:20, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Khakas regard themselves as Yenisei Kyrgyz. That source you removed explains that word Khakas coined by Soviet scientists from Chinese word for "Kyrgyz." Remained Khakas in China today still called Fuyu Kyrgyz. Term Khakas is what Gypsy is to Romani people. It coined by imperialists to seperate the identity. Please revert to my version.

"During the initial period of czarist colonization (the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries), the Khakas were known to the Russians as the 'Yenisei Kirghiz.' This appellation was obviously based on the autonym of the contemporary Khakas, or at least of a considerable part of them. Today the old ethnonym is still retained by the Manchurian Kirgiz, who continue to call themselves 'Kïrgïs.' The Russian colonial administration referred to the Khakas as the 'Minusinsk' or 'Abaka Tatars,' implying a linguistic relationship with the Tatars proper, as well as with other groups regarded as varieties of the Tatars. At the same time, the Shors were referred to as the 'Kuznetsk Tatars,' whereas the Chulym Turks were known as the 'Meletsk Tatars.' This colonial terminology was also adopted by the Khakas, who started to call themselves "Tadar" (plural, Tadarlar), an ethnonym still used by older generation of the Khakas. The current official appellation, 'Khakas' (plural, Khakastar), was introduced around the time of the October Revolution. Historically, this is a manufactured term, based on a false reading of an ethnonym that occurs in ancient Chinese documents and actually refers to the Kirgiz. For this reason, there is a continuing discussion among the Khakas about the necessity of finding a more genuine native name. As yet, no generally acceptable alternatives seem to be available." 2A02:FF0:3316:351C:F1EA:B1DC:852E:2FA1 (talk) 18:04, 15 October 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, encyclopedia.com is not a valid reference to Wikipedia. The reference you keep adding does not say that Khakas are called Yenisei Kyrgyz, just as Russians are not called Rus'. The predecessors of Khakas do include what is historically known as Yenisei Kyrgyz, and that is what is our article say. --Altenmann >talk 20:41, 16 October 2025 (UTC)