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Latest comment: 6 years ago by Spintendo in topic Some proposed changes

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Hillraym stated in his/her edit summary when re-creating this page: "I was in the process of changing content to assert the significance of this topic." User also placed a {{hangon}} tag on the page (I've corrected it). Let's give this a few hours to see if the article improves. KieferSkunk (talk) 23:42, 12 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Edit request

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 Spintendo  01:17, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Here are six issues I’m hoping you can help me with:

Problem #1: Current: IslandWood is a non-profit outdoor learning center located on Bainbridge Island in Washington. Why This Needs to be Revised: We are an organization (not a center) with programs and offices in Seattle, Woodinville, and Bainbridge Island, WA. We have a campus on Bainbridge Island but serve about twice as many students in our other locations as we do on Bainbridge. Citation: [1]. Also we do not just do “outdoor learning.” We have classroom curriculum [2] as well and teacher preparation programs [3]. The term “environmental education” is more accurate in describing what we do. Proposed revision: IslandWood is a non-profit environmental education organization with programs on Bainbridge Island, Seattle, and Woodinville in Washington.

Problem #2: Current: It was founded in 2001 to provide environmental education for young people living in King and Kitsap Counties. Why This Needs to be Revised: We were founded in 2000 and started programs in 2002. We never just served Kitsap and King County, but also schools in Snohomish, Pierce, Mason, Thurston counties – basically most of the Puget Sound region. Citation: [4] Also, we were founded to increase access to these types of learning opportunities for kids in this region. That should be included. Our work has expanded since then to include other things, but that was why we were initially founded so for accuracy should be mentioned. Proposed revision: It was founded in 2000 to increase access to outdoor experiential learning opportunities for young people living in the Puget Sound area.

Problem #3: Current: In 2010, IslandWood and Homewaters joined forces, giving IslandWood a key component in urban environmental education. In 2012, IslandWood was selected to lead the education programs at Brightwater Treatment Plant[1] in Woodinville, WA. Why This Needs to be Revised: This information belongs in the history section. The Homewaters brand name hasn’t existed for years and it is irrelevant to the description of what IslandWood is now (and also confusing for people who want to know about what we do). Also, IslandWood’s first contract with King County’s Brightwater treatment plant was signed in 2011 NOT 2012. Proposed revision: Move to history section and correct date of Brightwater deal from 2012 to 2011.

Problem #4: Current: IslandWood's core program on Bainbridge Island is called the School Overnight Program. Approximately 4000 fourth, fifth and sixth grade students attend the program each year.[2]They are taught by residential graduate students taking part in the Graduate Residency in Education, Environment and Community (EEC),[3] which is offered in partnership with the University of Washington. Why This Needs to be Revised: This was true in 2010, it’s not true anymore. Today we serve nearly twice as many students in our school programs in Seattle and Woodinville (about 7,000) [5] as we do on Bainbridge Island in our School Overnight Program (about 4,400) [6]. Those programs in Seattle and Woodinville are now as “core” as our School Overnight Program. Also, while our graduate students do teach in the School Overnight Program, they don’t do so exclusively (we have staff instructors as well). This also doesn’t mention our teacher professional development programs and workshops which have become an important, and state funded, part of our work. Also the name of our graduate program is incorrect - should be Graduate Program in Education for Environment and Community [7]. Proposed revision: IslandWood offers several school programs for 3rd-8th graders including the four-day School Overnight Program on its campus on Bainbridge Island, day programs at the Brightwater Wastewater Treatment Center in Woodinville and in Seattle watersheds, and a 4th grade stormwater science and engineering unit. IslandWood also runs the Graduate Program in Education for Environment and Community (EEC),[3] which is offered in partnership with the University of Washington College of Education, and delivers teacher professional development programs and workshops.

Problem #5: Current: In 2016, IslandWood partnered with Antioch University to launch the Urban Environmental Education Program. Why This Needs to be Revised: We are no longer involved in this program and that link is dead. And the date is wrong -- should say 2014. Also, we partnered with Antioch University Seattle NOT Antioch University. While Antioch University is the parent brand, it is not the same organization. Proposed revision: Move this to the history section with the following changes: “In 2014, IslandWood partnered with Antioch University Seattle (AUS) to launch the Urban Environmental Education Program. In 2019, IslandWood and AUS ended their partnership and AUS took over the program.”

Problem #6: Current: IslandWood also offers the campus to other organizations to host conferences, meetings, retreats or celebrations, including weddings. Conferences and weddings at IslandWood help to sustain the mission by providing funds for the School Overnight Program.[citation needed] Why This Needs to be Revised: For clarity and to mention other programs we offer. For example, our free and low cost public events and programs attract around 7,000 people every year yet there’s no mention of that in this description. Funds from our events business help cover both scholarships and expenses to run all of our education programs not just the School Overnight Program. Proposed revision: IslandWood also offers summer camps, public events and programs, and hosts meetings, retreats, celebrations, and weddings on its campus. Revenue from its events business helps sustain the mission by providing funds for student scholarships and educational programming.[citation needed] (If you need a citation, our annual report may work where it shows how events contribute to our operating costs: [8])

Thank you for anything you can do to help us update the description of our organization. As a nonprofit our Wikipedia description is an important tool for helping people understand what we do and get involved in our work. While I understand the need to avoid promotional sounding language, at a minimum we need our description to be accurate and appreciate anything you can do to help with these corrections and clarifications.}}IWCommunications (talk) 21:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

References

I'm including two subsequent posts made by another editor on the COI editor's talk page below since they are relevant to the edit request above:

Please bear in mind that all content must be cited from reliable sources that are unconnected with the subject and have a reputation for fact checking.  Dlohcierekim 22:36, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

and:

Oh, we generally don't care what subjects say about themselves. I see the ref list at the bottom. It's all sourced to the subject. Anyway, that edit request can be made after unblocking. Dlohcierekim 22:38, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

In light of Dlohcierekim's feedback, I'm setting the template to |ans=yes. To the COI editor: When this block is resolved and you're ready to proceed with your request, please change the {{request edit}} template's answer parameter to read from |ans=yes to |ans=no. Thank you!
Regards,  Spintendo  03:50, 4 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

I've boldly reset the thing to "nO" as the thing is on the talk page now and I don't want to be a kill joy have the last word in case someone/anyone disagrees.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:00, 4 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Reply 04-JUN-2019

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  Unable to review edit request  

  • Your edit request could not be reviewed because the provided references are not formatted correctly.[a] The citation style predominantly used by the IslandWood article is Citation Style 1 (CS1). The citation style used in the edit request consists of bare URL's.[b] Any requested edit of yours which may be implemented will need to resemble the current style already in use in the article – in this case, CS1. (See WP:CITEVAR.) As Wikipedia is a volunteer project, edit requests such yours are generally expected to have this formatting done before the request is submitted for review. In the extended section below titled Citation style, I have illustrated two examples: one showing how the edit request was submitted, and another showing how requests should be submitted in the future:
  • Kindly rewrite your edit request so that it aligns more with the second example shown in the collapsed section above, and feel free to re-submit that edit request at your earliest convenience. If you have any questions about this formatting please don't hesitate to ask myself or another editor. Regards,  Spintendo  05:38, 4 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

Notes

  1. The fault for this formatting error may have originated with the automated prompts used by the edit request template, which asks for a COI editor to "supply the URL of any references used". While the resulting omission of information would not be the fault of the requesting COI editor, it nevertheless remains their responsibility to supply the references formatted in the style used by the article.
  2. The use of bare URLs as references is a style which is acceptable for use in Wikipedia. However, general practice dictates that the style already in use for an article be the one that is subsequently used for all future additions unless changed by editorial consensus.[1]

References

  1. "WP:CITEVAR - Wikipedia:Citing sources". Wikipedia. 20 October 2018. Retrieved 22 October 2018. Guideline: It is normal practice to defer to the style used by the first major contributor or adopted by the consensus of editors already working on the page, unless a change in consensus has been achieved. If the article you are editing is already using a particular citation style, you should follow it.

Some proposed changes

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Hhupp (talk) 17:49, 7 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

Reply 7-AUG-2019

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Regards,  Spintendo  19:40, 7 August 2019 (UTC)Reply