Talk:House finch

Whether the male or the female is the primary feeder of the baby bird

In "Breeding" paragraph 2, there is the statement,

"...and the male is the primary feeder of the fledgelings..."

But in paragraph 3, it is unequivocally stated,

"The female always feeds the young..."

Which is true? While I was hand-feeding a baby house finch that fell from the nest, I was unable to tell from this article if it was safe to return it to the nest when only the father was alive and present. It may be helpful to others to have the answer as well.

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Just a possible suggestion, considering the amount of further reading given, either some should be removed, or it should be sectioned into aspects of C. mexicanus's ecology etc. George-E 22:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Date of introduction into Hawaii

The date of introduction into Hawaii may not have been 1870. The source of the 1870 date appears to be Bishop Museum Occasional Papers, Volume 10(9). 1933. The exotic birds of Hawaii. Caum, E.L. I don't have a copy, but secondary sources seem indicate that the paper describes house finches as having been introduced before 1870, rather than during 1870. Smptq 20:24, 20 May 2008 (PDT)

I tried to edit accordingly. Please check my work, if you please. Walter Siegmund (talk) 15:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The edits look good, though the best solution here would be to obtain a copy of the paper and confirm that it says what people seem to think it says.Smptq 20:55 21 May 2008 (UTC)

My local research library lacks BMOP prior to volume 26. We'll have to wait for someone who has access to earlier volumes to confirm the content. Walter Siegmund (talk) 17:06, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Merging multiple citations

If I'm citing a paper more than once, how do I get wikipedia to recognize this, and use a single citation number for all citations of the same paper?Smptq (talk) 14:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I seem to have figured it out. You use a name for the ref tag, and then re-use that name on each subsequent reference. Smptq (talk) 20:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Interactions between House Finches and House Sparrows

I'm finding a much more complex set of interactions with house sparrows in the literature than simple dominance by house finches. Earlier reports discuss the ability of house sparrows to successfully raid house finch nests: "Over forty percent of the eggs laid were ultimate failures, the largest factor in the loss being destruction of the eggs and young by the English Sparrow". This rate of destruction is much higher than in more recent papers, where only about 20% of nests are lost (and not all to sparrows). However, the expansion of the house finch in eastern North America clearly resulted in a drop in the sparrow population. I'd love to have some simple nice easy way to describe the interaction. Anybody got a better way to describe what's going on than we currently do? Smptq (talk) 01:43, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

needs revision, clarity

"These birds are mainly permanent residents"--huh? What does this mean? "permanent residents" of WHERE? This (and likely other sections) needs to be cleaned up/clarified. Wikipedia is an INTERNATIONAL resource; it should not be U.S.-centric. Also, do you mean "nonmigratory"? If so, that term should be used instead. I'm not a bird expert, but I'm just pointing out that this article needs to be reviewed for clarity. philiptdotcom (talk) 23:32, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

The House Finch is mostly permanently resident throughout its range, in North America, as I've clarified. Some House Finches migrate, so we'd have to say "mostly non-migratory … but some birds migrate", which doesn't seem clearer than "mainly permanent residents" to me, besides being poorer style, emphasising what other birds do that they don't do. —innotata 15:50, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Red House Finch of Pennsylvania Spirit Animal Meaning

Associations for this variation of finch, often noted by its slightly more shallow degree split in its tail, include: During times of heavy emotion and negativity, a signal to stop for a moment and allow yourself to release whatever thinking or emotional responses that are not serving you at that moment.

Lightness, feeling safe and at peace, spirituality in whatever its various forms may register for you, and a reminder that anything you feel you may have lost from hardships in the past will be replaced through the positive changes soon that are yet to come. JaneLouise0110 (talk) 20:14, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Moving commented out text

Greetings and felicitations. This is commented out text from the appendices of the article, that I'm moving so that it is archived. For future use:

Further reading

Books

• Hill, G. E. 1993. "House Finch (Carpodacus mexicanus)". In The Birds of North America, No. 46 (A. Poole and F. Gill, Eds.). Philadelphia: The Academy of Natural Sciences; Washington, D.C.: The American Ornithologists' Union.

Theses

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• Badyaev AV. (1998). Evolution of sexual dimorphism in birds: Ecological patterns, current selection, and ontogenetic variation. University of Montana, United States, Montana.
• Belthoff JR. (1992). Ecological and hormonal correlates of social dominance in house finches. Clemson University, United States, South Carolina.
• Farmer KL. (2006). Study of a novel host-parasite relationship: Mycoplasma gallisepticum in house finches (Carpodacus mexicanus). Auburn University, United States, Alabama.
• Gaudette MT. (1998). Modeling wetland songbird community integrity in central Pennsylvania. The Pennsylvania State University, United States, Pennsylvania.
• Hamilton TR. (1991). The expansion of the eastern house finch population and its impact on populations of house sparrows, purple finches and American goldfinches. Ball State University, United States, Indiana.
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• Hess CM. (2005). The evolution of the major histocompatibility complex in house finches (Carpodacus mexicanus). University of Washington, United States, Washington.
• Hill GE. (1991). The evolution of colorful plumage in the house finch. University of Michigan, United States, Michigan.
• Kelly TD. (1991). Impact of agroforestry plantations grown with agricultural drain water on avian abundance and diversity in the San Joaquin Valley, California. California State University, Fresno, United States, California.
• Kozlovic DR. (1997). Consequences of brood parasitism by cowbirds on house finches in a new area of sympatry. University of Toronto (Canada), Canada.
• Navara KJ. (2005). Yolk androgen deposition in two passerine species: Do females play favorites? Auburn University, United States, Alabama.
• Randell SM. (1996). A study of avian populations and behavior at a proposed wind energy production facility near Fort Davis, Texas. Sul Ross State University, United States, Texas.
• Thakur S. (1999). Effect of high temperatures and crowding on leukocyte and parasite counts of the house finch (Carpodacus mexicanus). California State University, Fullerton, United States, California.
• Tobin ME. (1983). Conditioned Aversions in Three Species of Fruit-Eating Birds (Finch, Robin, Starling). University of California, Davis, United States, California.
• Vanderpool KS. (1993). A model for predicting House Sparrow and House Finch ratios in urban southern California. California State University, Fullerton, United States, California.
• Vazquez-Phillips MA. (1992). Population differentiation of the house finch (Carpodacus mexicanus) in North America and the Hawaiian Islands. University of Toronto (Canada), Canada.
• Zahn SN. (1999). Fitness correlates of different color morphs of male house finches (Carpodacus mexicanus frontalis). University of California, Santa Barbara, United States, California.

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