Talk:Holowczyn

Requested move 28 September 2026

Holowczyn → HalowchynHalowchyn – See WP:BELARUSIANNAMES. There is a de facto consensus to use BGN/PCGN romanization of Belarusian when there is no common name, hence this would be consistent with the other articles, e.g. Byalynichy. Mellk (talk) 23:04, 28 September 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Jeffrey34555 (talk) 02:16, 6 October 2026 (UTC)

Move to Haloŭčyn. As stated at WP:CYR: This proposal has become dormant through lack of discussion by the community. Belarusian has its own Latin alphabet, so it should be used, as Haloŭčyn is the original and proper name. --Red Winged Duck (talk) 08:57, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Firstly, we have WP:TITLECON. If there was no de facto consensus, all the other titles wouldn't follow BGN/PCGN romanization. Secondly, the "official" transliteration would be "Galowchyn" and we have WP:OFFICIAL. Mellk (talk) 10:40, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

I should also note that the same argument was previously refuted here. Mellk (talk) 14:35, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

The community previously discussed this, and there was no consensus for using Instruction romanization rather than BGN/PCGN. See Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Cyrillic)/Archive 3. Ultimately, we follow what reliable secondary sources use, and there is no evidence that Instruction romanization is more predominant in English-language sources today. No participants in the discussion argued strongly in favour of Łacinka either; that is probably the least-used of the three. 162 etc. (talk) 17:13, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

The instruction romanization system was also abandoned not long ago. Mellk (talk) 17:17, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

Yes, the most recent romanization system was introduced in 2023, after these discussions took place. 162 etc. (talk) 21:04, 29 September 2026 (UTC)

The 2020 RfC wasn't closed on the merits, it was procedurally closed on the wording of the proposal and more people supported the 2007 system than opposed it. It was not a rejection. So the real question here is what WP:COMMONNAME requires. There is no established English common name for this place. The choice is between transliteration systems. Like I said in my original comment, Belarusian has its own Latin alphabet, Łacinka, and the 2007 system is basically its UN-recommended form. It was in official use until 2023, is codified in the Academy of Sciences reference works, and its main difference from Łacinka is just one letter. BGN/PCGN romanization from 1979, on the other hand, was never adopted through a formal RfC, has no UN backing, and has never been the system used in Belarus. For a name with no common English form, the 2007 system, and the Łacinka tradition it represents, is the better-supported option. Red Winged Duck (talk) 21:28, 3 October 2026 (UTC)