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Why I reverted

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The text I just reverted badly misrepresented the source, which does not say anything about what "most Americans that are part of any religious denomination" believe about abortion. The source, as its title indicates, is about official positions of different denominations. Moreover, the source emphasizes nuance in their positions. That is, most of the official positions discussed, while favoring restrictions, do not favor banning abortion under all circumstances. So the added text violates WP:NOR and WP:V. NightHeron (talk) 09:43, 11 January 2024 (UTC)Reply


Regarding the source of abortion worldwide

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I am mending the text of "Abortion around the world "Japan"" part one by one because most of the parts are different from the reality, and I cannot find the book of the source "Abortion in Asia: An Overview"here in Japan. I cannot find any resource backing up the source.I will replace Japanese part as soon as I can find English article, as the part was very different from reality, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_abortion&diff=prev&oldid=1268525900 This abortion rate in Japan is not possible. As this source is used on Romania and Thailand parts too, I ask editors familiar to situation in those countries to check these texts. Paperworkorange (talk) 13:55, 20 February 2025 (UTC)Reply

Dispute regarding the Biblical passage from Numbers

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At the end of that paragraph the sentence is supported by a non-RS source -- a Masters thesis by a divinity student. The term "some scholars" does not even include the author of the source. The thesis clearly has a strong anti-abortion POV and, as its title makes clear, it's written from a religious standpoint, which is not the same as scholarly neutrality. Starting the sentence with "Some abortion opponents" would be much more accurate than "Some scholars". NightHeron (talk) 15:14, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply

NightHeron, if the source is crappy, so is the sentence. Just delete it. Dimadick (talk) 17:42, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
Okay, thanks. I'll do that. I'm trying to avoid an edit-war with this editor. NightHeron (talk) 18:17, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
I agree that "Some scholars" is not ideal but unless you can prove that said student holds pro-life views, it cannot be said that they are so.
The source is not "crappy". Please see WP:THESIS and do not make any more changes before consensus is achieved. ~ Hogshine (talk) 18:52, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
If you want to talk about WP:RS, worth mentioning that the entire paragraph relies on a single archived article from "Freedom From Religion Foundation" - I'll let the image you see at the beginning of the article speak for itself. By all the metrics you provided - RS, POV, crappy sources - they'd all apply to that far more than well-written scholarship. ~ Hogshine (talk) 19:43, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
To avoid a lengthy debate about this, would the following compromise be okay? We'd restore the sentence I reverted but instead of either "Some scholars" or "Some abortion opponents" put simply "Some": "Some have challenged the translation...". NightHeron (talk) 20:19, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply
That's okay. Thumbs up icon ~ Hogshine (talk) 20:23, 9 January 2026 (UTC)Reply