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Latest comment: 27 days ago by Lova Falk in topic Request to add Flag of Hazaristan image
Former good article nomineeHazaras was a good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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"Genetics" section inconsistency.

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The Genetics section varies in usage of "East Eurasian", "West Eurasian", "East Asian", and "West Asian" inconsistently. Additionally, right now it says that Hazaras are "48% European". Major error. 26378J (talk) 05:44, 13 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 December 2025

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Change the infobox flag parameter from: Worldresident (talk) 15:03, 29 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want made. Please detail the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Mellk (talk) 15:13, 29 December 2025 (UTC)Reply

Indigenous Continuity and Ethnogenesis

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While earlier narratives emphasized a primarily Mongol origin for the Hazara people, more recent scholarship has increasingly highlighted the role of long-term regional continuity in their ethnogenesis. Several scholars, including Sayed Askar Mousavi, have argued that the Hazara are in part descendants of populations inhabiting the central Hindu Kush prior to the Mongol period, who later intermixed with incoming Turko-Mongol groups.[1]

Archaeological evidence from the Bamiyan Valley, including the Buddha statues dating to the 5th–6th centuries CE, has been interpreted as indicative of the presence of settled populations in the region well before the Mongol invasions. Some researchers have noted that the artistic representations display physical characteristics comparable to those of modern Hazara communities, and have cited this as possible evidence of continuity from earlier periods, including the Kushan era, though such interpretations remain debated.[2]

Genetic studies further reinforce the model of indigenous continuity combined with later admixture. Research such as Haber et al. (2012) indicates that Hazara populations possess both East Asian (Turko-Mongol) ancestry and genetic components shared with other long-established populations of Afghanistan, suggesting deep regional roots alongside later historical influences.[3]

Linguistic evidence has also been cited in support of continuity. The Hazaragi dialect of Persian contains features that may reflect older regional linguistic layers predating Mongol influence, in addition to later Turkic and Mongolic elements.[4]

Taken together, archaeological, genetic, and linguistic evidence has been interpreted by a number of scholars as supporting the view that the Hazara represent a historically layered population with significant indigenous roots in the central Hindu Kush. Farhadhazara786 (talk) 00:08, 7 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. Mousavi, Sayed Askar (1998). The Hazaras of Afghanistan: An Historical, Cultural, Economic and Political Study. Surrey: Curzon Press.
  2. Poladi, Hassan (1989). The Hazaras. Stockton, CA: Moghal Publishing.
  3. Haber, Marc et al. (2012). "Afghanistan's Ethnic Groups Share a Y-Chromosomal Heritage Structured by Historical Events." PLoS ONE.
  4. Mousavi, Sayed Askar (1998). The Hazaras of Afghanistan.

Possible Kushan-Period Connections

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Some scholars have proposed that the origins of the Hazara people may be linked in part to populations inhabiting the central Hindu Kush during the Kushan period and subsequent eras. Rather than viewing the Hazara as solely the descendants of 13th-century Mongol military groups, a number of researchers emphasize long-term regional continuity combined with later admixture.

Sayed Askar Mousavi (1998) suggests that the Hazara may descend in part from pre-Mongol populations of the central highlands, who were later influenced by incoming Turko-Mongol groups.[1] These earlier populations are sometimes associated with communities present during the Kushan and post-Kushan periods.

Archaeological evidence from the Bamiyan Valley, including the Buddha statues dating to the 5th–6th centuries CE, has been interpreted by some researchers as reflecting the presence of settled populations prior to the Mongol invasions. Certain scholars have noted that the artistic representations display physical characteristics comparable to those of modern Hazara communities, and have suggested that this may indicate continuity from earlier populations, potentially including those of the Kushan era, although such interpretations remain debated.[2]

Genetic studies also support a model of mixed origins. Haber et al. (2012) found that Hazara populations exhibit both East Asian ancestry and genetic continuity with other populations native to Afghanistan, suggesting a combination of ancient local ancestry and later Central Asian influences.[3]

Taken together, these perspectives have led some scholars to propose that the Hazara represent a historically layered population with roots that may extend back to populations present in the region during the Kushan period, later shaped by subsequent migrations and admixture. Farhadhazara786 (talk) 00:14, 7 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

References

  1. Mousavi, Sayed Askar (1998). The Hazaras of Afghanistan: An Historical, Cultural, Economic and Political Study. Curzon Press.
  2. Poladi, Hassan (1989). The Hazaras. Moghal Publishing.
  3. Haber, Marc et al. (2012). "Afghanistan's Ethnic Groups Share a Y-Chromosomal Heritage Structured by Historical Events." PLoS ONE.

Possible AI generated writing

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Concerns have been raised about AI-generated content in this article. This is a procedural talk page section to discuss it. There is no need to ping me in response. Gnomingstuff (talk) 06:12, 15 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Mistakes on population numbers!!

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As a trustful site we use Wikipedia so give us the right information and numbers. population of Hazara people should be around 20-25% of Afghanistan they Give you the Wrong number. Thank you 🙏🏻 ~2026-30718-38 (talk) 00:21, 24 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

We have a well-sourced discussion about the population numbers in Afghanistan, also mentioning that some claim that it could be as high as 20%. However, as we say, other sources give much lower numbers. Friendly, Lova Falk (talk) 06:40, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Possible plagarism

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The painting identified as "Hazara tribesmen" such as this one; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazaras#/media/File:Hazara_tribesmen.jpg

is actually a Russian painting of an Afghan solider made by Russian painter Vasily Vereshchagin Russian painter. https://www.alamy.com/vereshchagin-vasily-vasilievich-afghan-1-image188592381.html

This should be removed immediately as this is plagiarism of an alrady existing painting and ruins the credibility of Wikipedia ~2026-32153-23 (talk) 07:33, 30 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Request to add Flag of Hazaristan image

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I would like to request an edit to add the Flag of Hazaristan SVG file from Wikimedia Commons to the Hazara article.

Suggested placement: Culture/Identity section.

Suggested caption: “Flag of Hazaristan, a proposed flag associated with Hazara identity.”

Commons file: File: پرچم هزارستان Flag of Hazaristan.svg

Please review whether this addition meets Wikipedia’s sourcing and neutrality guidelines. Amal109 (talk) 22:20, 10 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Fine with me! But please wait a bit so that other editors also can weigh in. Lova Falk (talk) 14:56, 11 July 2026 (UTC)Reply