Talk:Grenada station

Name Change

The name "Grenada Depot" is the official designation on the National Register of Historic Places and is commonly used by locals and the Grenada Railroad itself, and it should be recognized and preserved as such. IC 9612 (talk) 02:29, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

No, it is listed on the NRHP as "Illinois Central Depot", not "Grenada Depot". Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:53, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Might as well call it the Grenada Train Station. Here are 2 links where it is commonly used as "Grenada Depot." https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=173966, https://imgur.com/ehjrlG4 IC 9612 (talk) 05:16, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Yes, and to make matters worse, most of the edits on this article are completely false and filled with misinformation. HIBUDDYYY (talk) 22:33, 26 April 2025 (UTC)

Hi @IC 9612, could you please update the name? I believe it would make sense to use "Depot" since that's the more commonly recognized name. HIBUDDYYY (talk) 04:07, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

@HIBUDDYYY@Pi.1415926535,

I looked on the other talk and saw conflict...let's not argue about this. I haven't seen any newspapers about the depot, but there are some posts regarding it being called depot on Facebook. Here it is: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Gkg4PJR9w/ https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BdA5mZA8o/ IC 9612 (talk) 05:38, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

If not "Grenada Depot," should we call it "Grenada Train Station?" IC 9612 (talk) 05:39, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

I am currently looking for more posts about it being called Station or Depot as we speak IC 9612 (talk) 05:42, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Definitely going to be the last time I'll bring this up. Recently I found a recent newspaper of it being called "Grenada Depot," which is a weekly newspaper serving Grenada, Mississippi, anyways; here is the link to the newspaper. https://grenadastar.newspapers.com/image/1191146055/, Please let me know since I'm a beginner editor.

IC 9612 (talk) IC 9612 (talk) 20:53, 17 September 2025 (UTC)

@IC 9612, As I've said over and over, Grenada Depot is NOT just a "station" it's a passenger and freight station. It serves both, passenger not anymore. but the official name is Grenada Depot. If you can't get that right, at least understand that calling it "station" ignores its full purpose. It's not just about passengers it's about the freight too. HIBUDDYYY (talk) 05:57, 27 April 2025 (UTC)

Requested move 28 April 2025

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 16:48, 5 May 2025 (UTC)

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Grenada station → Grenada DepotGrenada Depot – Grenada Depot has been called "Depot" by locals from the town and the folks that are restoring that depot as we speak. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1BdA5mZA8o/ https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1Gkg4PJR9w/ https://www.hmdb.org/m.asp?m=173966 https://imgur.com/ehjrlG4 IC 9612 (talk) 02:11, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: Per the article naming policy, article titles should reflect what is used in reliable sources, and should be consistent with other articles. The policy also calls for sentence case - non-proper-nouns like "station" and "depot" should not be capitalized unless they are consistently part of a proper noun phase. The evidence given by the nominator consists of two Facebook posts by private individuals, a historic marker, and a construction sign - none of which qualify as reliable sources.

From the reliable sources I can find, no name has a clear majority of uses, especially not "Grenada Depot". Recent newspaper mentions include "Grenada depot" and "Grenada Train Depot". The NRHP nomination mostly uses "Illinois Central Depot". Looking at older newspapers, I find a mix of "Grenada depot" (ex. 1859, 1928, 1988) and "Grenada station" (ex. 1930, 1930, 1988), with a sprinkling of "Grenada Station", but no uses of "Grenada Depot". Amtrak and Illinois Central just called it "Grenada". Without one name being consistently used, WP:USSTATION establishes that "Grenada station" as the generic descriptive name. "Grenada station" is also consistent with other Amtrak station articles, which all also follow the USSTATION guideline. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 06:19, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

I also found more newspapers that has Grenada Depot in almost all of them, I am looking through the towns newspapers archives from 1867 to 1996 and found almost 30 articles of the station being called "Grenada Depot." and only 13 of it being called station. IC 9612 (talk) 23:19, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

https://imgur.com/a/OcEAxMm IC 9612 (talk) 23:24, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

There are 166 results for "grenada depot" on Newspapers.com:

• 56 were false positives - either not referring to this station, or cases like this where "depot" isn't being treated as part of the name
• 6 uses of the phrase only in article titles where all words were capitalized
• 2 uses of "Grenada Depot", with "Depot" capitalized. One is a quote from a personal letter and wouldn't be considered a reliable source.
• 29 uses of "Grenada depot", with "depot" not capitalized
• 12 uses of "Grenada train depot". Most are copies of two agency stories in different papers.
• 2 uses of "Grenada railroad depot"
• 2 uses of "Grenada Train Depot"
• 47 were weekly occurrences of an 1887 ad with "GRENADA DEPOT" in all caps

For "grenada station" there are 1000+ results, of which most are false positives. For those actually referring to this station, there are:

• 1 use in article title
• 15 copies of a single ad using "Grenada Station"
• 4 uses of "Grenada Station" in articles
• 16 uses of "Grenada station"
• 7 uses of "Grenada train station"
• 2 uses of "Grenada railroad station"

The "depot" uses were more common pre-1950, while more of the post-1950 uses were "station".

What this means is:

• The terms "depot" and "station" are primarily used in news articles as non-capitalized descriptors, rather than as a capitalized part of a proper name, by more than 10:1. This means that "Grenada" is the common name, as also seen in timetables.
• The term "depot" is somewhat more common than "station", but both are in common use. The Wikipedia community created WP:USSTATION to settle this dilemma: Generally, U.S. station articles should be titled by their common name, followed by "station" if not already part of the name.

Pi.1415926535 (talk) 00:40, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

This is still really confusing to me, looking at WP:USSTATION, I see examples: If a station's common name includes a descriptive term such as "Depot", "Terminal", or "Transit Center" that is roughly synonymous with "Station", the word "station" should not be added. If that common name is used as a proper name in reliable sources, it should remain capitalized in the article title. For example Grand Canyon Depot IC 9612 (talk) 02:39, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

That is only for names where "Station"/"Depot"/etc is consistently capitalized as part of the common name. For the vast majority of stations, including Grenada, "station" or "depot" is not consistently capitalized and is not part of the common name. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)

Oh, I see. However, I have some evidence that it was named Depot. Prior to 1980, I had heard that 1st Street was known as "Depot Street." I will gather screenshots shortly. IC 9612 (talk) 06:39, 4 May 2025 (UTC)

• Oppose: per Pi.1415926535. QuincyMorgan (talk) 20:29, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

• Propose

HIBUDDYYY (talk) 23:28, 28 April 2025 (UTC)

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