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Latest comment: 9 months ago by Consbuonomo in topic Biased if not liyng

Strongly biased

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Describing De Felice has the most important biographer of Mussolini, as well as a presenting De Felice's views as representative of the views of mainstream historians is far from correct. Of course Mussolini's responsibility is still much debated, yet to overrate some different hypothesis, again by De Felice, seems rather biased. I am not a professional historian, so I will not proceed to any change; but I call general editors' attention on the possible camouflage of a politically highly sensible page. Esagherardo (talk)  Preceding undated comment added 09:49, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply


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His case is sometimes compared with the spanish deputy killed during the shortly Second Republic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.54.95.246 (talk) 19:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

political, moral and historical responsibility for all that has happened

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Did he actually take direct responsibility for the murder. Ive read the speach in full and it seems like he does however my books all say that he took responsibility for fascism but not responsibility for the Matteotti murder itself. What do other people think? Wright123 20:46, 12 April 2006 (UTC)Reply

When he took "historicaly responsabilty" for fascism it was seen as him admiting to the murder of the socialist. RuSTy

Mussolini took overall responsibility for the violences by the "squadristi". He said "if Fascism is a delinquents' association, then I am the leader of this delinquents'association". However, he didn't specifically claim responsibility for the Matteotti murder.Giordaano 21:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)Reply

Some editing

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I removed this sentence:

  • the killer was seen as a hero by many zealous fascists

because it's completely destituted of any support in scientific literature about the Matteotti Case. If someone would find some reference for it, we could restore it.

I'll also add some references as I find them in English version, and provisionaly I put Italian version in bibliography. --Emanuele Mastrangelo (talk) 20:37, 30 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Another section without any support

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The following sentences are higly questionable, and I've removed them from the article. I hope someone could find some references to restore them.

  • and for a while it seemed that domestic and international pressure would force Victor Emmanuel into action, but as the King was supported so strongly by Mussolini and was worried he would otherwise be replaced by his cousin, he did nothing. The King feared that there would be a civil war or a socialist uprising if he forced Mussolini out of power. He also feared that if the socialists were to obtain power in Italy the monarchy would be abolished. Moreover, the King was under pressure from his mother, a Fascist supporter.

--Emanuele Mastrangelo (talk) 10:29, 31 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

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Biased if not liyng

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In a section It Is said that Denis Mack Smith raised doubts that Mussolini ordered the assassination: i ve Just checked and It seems very clear to me that in Storia d'Italia he suggest the opposite as he writes "Mussolini dovette vestire il saio del penitente. Fece di tutto per gettare le colpe su altri, ma il suo personale coinvolgimento fu confermato in dettaglio da Dumini", "his personal involvement was confirmed in details by Dumini" pgg. 441. The Page s version look like a plain lie. Elsewhere in the page Carlo Silvestri is quoted as a reliable source while he is widely not regarded as so. My impression Is that the entire Page Is made up to cast doubts on Mussolini's responsibilities and do the case for him, quoting unreliable sources, or distorting the ones which are there if not lying. I suggest to check this out. 93.37.57.248 (talk) 20:40, 6 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Mack Smith had opposite views, actually: "direi che invece del verdetto di "possibile" o di "impossibile", è da preferire quello di una "probabile" istigazione personale di Mussolini" (Denis Mack Smith, Mussolini e il caso Matteotti, in Studi e ricerche su Giacomo Matteotti (a cura di L. Bedeschi), Urbino, Istituto di storia della Università, 1979, p. 69) Consbuonomo (talk) 15:22, 9 November 2025 (UTC)Reply

“Italian Oil Reserves”?

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My understanding is that these were in Libya which since 1912 had been an Italian colony 2601:206:857D:45D0:CD0C:7E10:916D:CD07 (talk) 06:01, 21 September 2025 (UTC)Reply