Talk:Genaside II
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[edit]Whoever wrote that interview that says that Firestarter was based on a sample from Narra Mine did a bad researching job. He must have mixed up several things. First of all: Prodigy did "sample" a tune from Genaside II. It was Sirens of Acre Lane where they used the "When I was a yout I used to bun cali weed in a rizla" which was sampled from Pablo Gad'S Hard Times. Howlett used the same sample. So I think that's the reason the interviewer might have mixed it with Firestarter and the fact, that Howlett said somewhere that Narra Mine was a big influence in 1991. (Which was just a big hit back then)
2010-04-16 I agree with the above post. I fail to see the sample used in Firestarter. If anything, the oscillating sound found at time index 1:10 sounds like the quiet part in Firestarter, however in Firestarter that sound was made with a preset patch found on the Korg Prophecy synthesizer (of which I used to own and have even tried the patch), not with a sample. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Silverdroid (talk • contribs) 20:48, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
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[edit]I've cleaned up and updated this article with a few better sources (it was just two bare URLs before). There was a notability warning, but I've discarded that as I believe the group is relevant enough to be notable based on their connections to a number of notable artists (esp. The Prodigy) and the fact that "Narra Mine" was a pretty big hit in its time. Some of the sources are just mentions, but unfortunately this whole genre and era of music suffers from a lack of secondary sources on the internet, with valuable stuff often buried in old undigitized magazines and ancient (often dead) websites.
Both the Galvin interview and the Simutis piece mention Liam Howlett in an interview describing Genaside as being influential in the development of jungle and big beat, so I am hoping to find wherever that statement was sourced from.
The claims about "Narra Mine" and "Firestarter" being related are confusing; Galvin claims "Narra Mine" was sampled on "Firestarter", while the Simutis piece says "Firestarter" is a cover of their single "Hellraiser". "Hellraiser" does not seem to be a single by Genaside themselves, but rather an EP of four tracks (none of which are called "Hellraiser") by their associate Armageddon released under the same label, with Kris listed as one of the producers. I think the description on Discogs sounds the most plausible, which is that "Narra Mine" inspired the composition. I've just decided to say that their sound "reportedly inspired" the track. Toyonbro (talk) 21:44, 14 August 2025 (UTC)