Talk:G.R.L.

Lineup debate

A lot of people keep removing former members of the group, simply stating they "weren't part of the group", yet they were at some point or another, whether under the PCD name or the G.R.L. imprint. Most of them appeared in the Godaddy.com advertisements, which therefore proves they were in the group at one point, so removing them is erasing their involvement with the group, no matter how small or big. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 15:56, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Since this page is specifically about the music group, it is only necessary to list members that were part of the music group at some point. The group said in an interview once that they all signed the contract to be part of the group in March 2013, days after Estrada's inclusion. This would mean that all of the other past members were not contracted to be in the group. It is the exact same case as The Pussycat Dolls. Only contracted former members of the music group are listed. Asia Nitollano performed with the group once, but was never contractually obligated to join the group, therefore she is not listed. Furthermore, Mejia and Branche were never announced as part of the group. Appearing in promotional photos with the line-up at the time does not indicate official involvement. Additionally, Jenkins, Curry, Sayers and the aforementioned duo are still mentioned in one of the sections. DantODB (talk) 06:38, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

But several of them appeared in the Godaddy.com commercial, which means they were in some form, part of the group, contract or not. They've all been mentioned, and/or seen in media that advertised the group; and DantODB, removing them from the infobox while this conversation carries on is in violation of the rules on consensus, they have to stay there until consensus has been reached. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 17:24, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

For the time being, Branche and Mejia should be removed from the infobox since promotional photos from various parties do not indicate involvement and there were no official confirmation that they were part of the group. Furthermore, since this article is about the music group, it would be best to put only members of the music group in the infobox. Robin Antin, Cyia Batten, Kaya Jones and Kasey Campbell all appeared on the "Sway" music video with the Pussycat Dolls. Asia Nitollano performed as part of the group on television once, but since the Pussycat Dolls article is about the music group, it is only appropriate to put members and past members of the music group in the infobox. DantODB (talk) 07:17, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

Dant, you're not understand, removing ANY of them while this discussion is happening, is against the consensus policy, as it shows you're attempting to gear the decision in your direction, instead of leaving it as it was when the discussion began, until a final decision is reached. If it's done again, I will be reporting it. As for their involvement, just because one article has something one way does not mean it's how it should be mirrored elsewhere; not how Wikipedia works as a public encyclopedia. Comparing that of G.R.L. to PCD is invalid, as there is only one G.R.L. page, while PCD has the burlesque group and recording group; G.R.L. was never a burlesque group. All of the girls were involved, at one point or another, within the group. Whether it be in promotional campaigns for advertisers or for other unspecified reasons. Confirmation was head, as Emmalyn stated Natalie left the group and was replaced, which implies her own involvement in the group as a recording facet. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 17:55, 16 September 2014 (UTC)

It is well-known that Robin Antin's girl groups go through a number of line-up changes before being finalized. It is only right to treat G.R.L. the same way we treat Antin's other recording groups. The Pussycat Dolls originally had ten people in the recording group, but the final line-up consisted of six. Additionally, the group had four new members that performed with Nicole as The Pussycat Dolls in 2010 but this was never regarded as official, since no commercial projects were done with this line-up. The Paradiso Girls also went through line-up changes before their debut single was released, but only members that did commercial projects are credited in the infobox. It should be the same way with this group. I would also like to point out that before the GoDaddy commercial, there was another line-up that is not even mentioned in the line-up changes section. I also feel that the former group members that took part when the group was still a new line-up of The Pussycat Dolls would be incorrect because G.R.L. was announced to be a different group from The Pussycat Dolls after Estrada's inclusion. DantODB (talk) 09:17, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

"Well known" to who, though? That's an assumption, and not what Wikipedia is about. You're providing me with run-around talk right now; there was a Godaddy.com commercial, which provides as commercial material and was confirmed as a debut for the GROUP, which therefore stands as a lineup for the group. Then changes were made post-commercial to the group, and were debuted elsewhere. Then more changes when some members left, due to pregnancy and other reasons. Whether they existed as a former PCD group, or a new group, they still existed and their existence cannot be ignored for whatever reasons you are seeing fit. Valid sources prove to see that the girls were part of the group, and therefore be mentioned. And once again, just because another page or pages do the same does the same thing, does NOT mean this page should follow suit, hence this discussion. And using that as a defense is not valid, per Wikipedia. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 14:58, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

None of the girls that were listed appear in any of the music videos or in any of the released songs, therefore they are not part of the group. 72.205.134.221 (talk) 09:21, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

I do not understand why we cannot just follow how other girl groups credit their members if it is the exact same case. The GoDaddy commercial line-up would be inappropriate to be referred to as the debut for the music group, as it was not music-related. DantODB (talk) 13:04, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Because that is not how Wikipedia works, and being an editor since 2009, I would assume you would be aware of that. This isn't "What other pages do, we are going to do". And stop saying music-related. It was the group's lineup. There's only ONE group; there was never a burlesque group, etc. It's always been ONE group. There should be no differentiation. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 19:34, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Since this article is about a girl group, I think it would be inappropriate to list former members that never even did musical projects with the group in the infobox. I'm not taking away their involvement in the group; it's just that the mention of their involvement in a paragraph would be more appropriate than to credit them the same way Battle is credited, after having released an EP with the group. DantODB (talk) 17:21, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

But they were still part of the group, whether their involvement happened through musical releases are not; discrediting them their rightful place within the infobox is unfair. If people want to know why they're "past memebers", they can look within the article, which notes their appearance within the group and their leave from it. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 17:50, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I think the other girls should be removed. Look at the Spice Girls. Michelle Stephenson, Abigail Kis or Lianne Morgan are not part of the bandbox--CHR!S (talk) 04:50, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Removed other girls again since the majority of the users on this post do not believe they should be included! Huge456 (talk) 20:40, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

agreed they should not be mentioned, though the user who keeps adding them threatened me with a block! 213.105.80.22 (talk) 20:42, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Vaction???

wasn't it the b-side for Ooh La La

Paula van Oppen capitalization per van (Dutch)

We currently have conflicting capitalization schemes. I'm gonna be WP:BOLD as per van (Dutch) and make all instances of the 'full' name "Paula van Oppen" have "van" in lower case but capitalize it for standalone surname only instances of "Van Oppen". Warmest Regards, :)—_thecurran Speak your mind ^{my past} 03:35, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Labels

GRLs new record label is LocoTalent. Someone please add this 😀 Musicgrls16 (talk) 00:23, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

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G.R.L.?

Has anyone any idea what the abbreviation G.R.L. stands for? No answer in this article anyway... Hartenhof (talk) 06:22, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

So it's girl, obviously. I'm a bit slow... Hartenhof (talk) 12:26, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

G.R.L is no longer

G.R.L has disbanded so yall can go ahead and change that 2603:8098:1A40:5D9C:34DD:ED7E:B7D2:59FB (talk) 03:31, 19 September 2025 (UTC)

GA review

This review is transcluded from Talk:G.R.L./GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Nominator: Launchballer (talk · contribs) 20:47, 27 September 2026 (UTC)

Reviewer: 1brianm7 (talk · contribs) 19:17, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

Reviewing per GARC142. 1brianm7 (talk) 19:17, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

@Launchballer: This is my second GA review, and in the first one I think I went a bit overboard on the GA criteria, so tell me if I'm doing so here! 1brianm7 (talk) 22:00, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

• It may be out of scope, but I don't really think G.R.L. discography should exist. All of its content can be moved over to this page, and IMO that would be better. Consider doing so.
• The USA Today reference is duplicated, ref 23 and 37, and neither have a date parameter
• I made some minor edits to the first sentence of the body.
• Evidently not enough, though: the word team did not contain the letter I - it still doesn't, to the best of my knowledge
• I think the first paragraph is a bit confusing. We begin with the date it initially launched, before caveating that for a paragraph. We don't tell the reader that Antin formed Paradiso Girls or Girlicious, we don't tell the reader what The Pussycat Dolls are. its unclear what group Antin started holding auditions for, and we spend a lot of text with long introductions on members who left before the first single. also, and Laker Girl and Dallas Cowboys cheerleader Vanessa Curry and Erica Jenkins should probably have a respectively or something.
• their June debut single "Vacation" on the label. - on the label in June, not June debut single
• G.R.L. released the single "Ugly Heart" and a self-titled EP in June and July - I think the articles chronology is sufficiently janky that we should spell out 2014, and also should there be a respectively
• less than a week before Battle died by suicide - this really shouldn't be dropped on the reader as an ancillary clause to Ugly Heart getting released in the UK
• launch the firm's Campaign to Change Direction with Michelle Obama - which firm?
• Shortly after the former, Little Mix were accused of ripping off "Ugly Heart" for their single "Shout Out to My Ex",[30][31] prompting the band to defend themselves during a Belgian radio interview.[32][33] - the band is unclear here, we are referring to Little Mix but I thought it was referring to GRL. Also, does this need to be in a top-level overview of the group? The only relevance I've been able to spy is that a Little Mix member said that Emmalyn loved the song and that they were friends
• After touring as a trio until 2020,[34] the pair briefly reunited with... - no comment needed
• Slayton used a July 2025 podcast appearance to blame money for the band's subsequent dissolution - the 2021 dissolution, or the 2015 one
• and a July 2026 joint post with Estrada and Van Oppen to announce that Bennett had died in late May.[37] - I don't think its pertinent for the readers to know that Estrada and Van Oppen announced Bennett's death, just that she died. I've only skimmed Bennett's talk page, but there seemed to be some sort of kerfuffle there, so I may be wrong
• We have articles for the EP and three singles? Is there no reception for the group? What did people think about them? A very cursory search found three supergroups that are GAs: Slash's Snakepit, Silk Sonic, and Tapeworm (band). Besides the last one which is odd, the former have a lot more content that I would want to see in this article, if it exists.

Will comment more once you have a chance to respond. The images lack alt text, which is now required, but are appropriately licensed (one from the Pentagon!), and no copyvio from earwig. 1brianm7 (talk) 22:00, 3 October 2026 (UTC)

Noting that I've seen this and will respond when I'm untired enough to be sure of what I'm doing.--Launchballer 23:10, 3 October 2026 (UTC)