Talk:Criticism of G4S

Danny Fitzsimons, the 'antichrist' murderer - worthy enough to add?

See https://theintercept.com/2016/06/14/orlando-shooter-wasnt-the-first-murderer-employed-by-global-mercenary-firm/ 95.55.94.129 (talk) 23:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

GS4 guard Buamgartner 2012

On June 14, 2012 Travis Baumgartner shot several of his GS4 co-workers in the head with his GS4 issued weapon and then looted the armored car he and they worked aboard while at the University of Alberta in Edmonton and attempted to escape into the United States. Travis had posted statements on Facebook prior to the event such as “I wonder if I’d make the six o’clock news if I just started popping people off,” and was texting about robbing GS4 with a friend of his the night of the robbery/murders.

A CBC account of the matter is here - http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/travis-baumgartner-pleads-guilty-in-deadly-edmonton-shootings-1.1703929

Their vetting procedures are surely lacking.

75.165.57.101 (talk) 03:55, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

Former Group 4

has been controversial since the 1990s, when it operated under the name Group 4

They were in fact a laughing-stock, and proverbial in popular culture for allowing prisoners on trial to escape custody. Nuttyskin (talk) 14:58, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Omar Mateen?

I've just reverted the deletion of a subsection about Omar Mateen. I'm not sure why it was deleted - G4S paid fines relating to failures in relation to him - so perhaps any further deletion could be justified here? JezGrove (talk) 22:07, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

Requested move 23 December 2023

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The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Seawolf35 ^T--C 21:01, 16 January 2024 (UTC)

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Controversies surrounding G4S → G4S controversies – Seems to be more in line with other "controversies" articles. GnocchiFan (talk) 17:02, 23 December 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. Lightoil (talk) 08:18, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Oppose. G4S is jargon. Jargon should be avoided. If it must be used, use it at the end, not the start, to be less jarring. SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:53, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

G4S is a company name. YorkshireExpat (talk) 09:19, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

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Requested move 16 February 2025

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The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus on the alternative proposed title. – robertsky (talk) 15:43, 5 April 2025 (UTC)

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Controversies surrounding G4S → G4S controversies – Seems to be more standard. Previous move discussion did not give any reason to oppose the move, seemingly based on the (false) idea that including the company name was "jargon". – GnocchiFan (talk) 14:14, 16 February 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2025 (UTC) — Relisting. Sophisticatedevening ^(talk) 16:00, 2 March 2025 (UTC)

Relisting comment: I won't close this as a successful uncontested move as it appears to be identical to the previous RM. Relisting for discussion and to generate consensus. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:47, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

• Move to Criticism of G4S instead to keep in line with other set index articles such as, say, Criticism of Amazon. ToThAc (talk) 05:53, 5 March 2025 (UTC)
• Support Criticism of G4S per ToThAc; secondary preference for original proposal. Agree with nominator that the opposition to the prior RM was mistaken. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 21:33, 2 April 2025 (UTC)

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