Talk:City of David

Requested move 22 June 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Nominator's suggestion not found to be more helpful than the current situation. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 17:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

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City of David → City of David (disambiguation)City of David (disambiguation) – "City of David", as a term, has a clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, which is the ancient city of Jerusalem (a meaning and naming also theologically significant in both Judaism and Christianity), to which this page should redirect. This academic usage in English dates back to the 1800s (see Ngrams), while the other meanings all simple draw upon this historic pedigree. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:33, 22 June 2022 (UTC)— Relisting. Spekkios (talk) 22:39, 29 June 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. Wikinav shows nobody clicked on the Jersulem link from this page (see ). That is probably because the link was only recently added. I'd wait some time to see if Jerusalem is the most clicked link. Vpab15 (talk) 10:29, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

  In google scholar, most articles refer to the excavation of the City of David. I'd say the archeological site is probably the primary topic. Vpab15 (talk) 10:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

  But the very meaning of the name is a subsidiary of and subordinate to the sense of "City of David" as a name for Jerusalem. That is, in fact, the entire point of the rather intentional naming of the archaeological site, which seeks to blur biblical history and archaeological fact. The archaeological site, by piggy-backing on the name, is staking its claim to being the ancient city of Jerusalem. Iskandar323 (talk) 11:17, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

  Scholarly mentions of the name with "excavations(s) and archaeology" extracted still amount to 6,850 hits, versus 3,150 hits for those including "excavation". Iskandar323 (talk) 11:20, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

• Oppose. I wonder if a page about the term "City of David" would actually be primary topic. Very few people would type in City of David in an attempt to reach Jerusalem. And in fact, the Gospel of Luke uses the term "city of David" to refer to the completely separate town of Bethlehem. Red Slash 17:25, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

  @Red Slash: Yes, I agree it probably would. Unfortunately it doesn't exist at present, so the natural place for 'City of David' to redirect to is Jerusalem, which at least explains the term to some extent. However, in theory, quite a sizeable independent article could be drawn up on the subject. The move would still better pave the way for this to be done, by freeing up 'City of David' as a page title. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:23, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

What belongs here

• Bethlehem, called in Luke 2:4, 2-11 "the city of David" due to David being born there
• Jerusalem
  • City of David (archaeological site), the original settlement core of Jerusalem during the Bronze and Iron Ages

What doesn't belong here

We do have Jerusalem with all its meanings plus specifically City of David (archaeological site), so no need for J. Walls, for the Old City of more recent date which most likely leaves out the CoD (Finkelstein's "mound on the Mount" theory is fringe and unprovable), or the modern Pal. neighbourhood. None of those can, or indeed are called "the city of David". So I removed as irrelevant:

• Old City of Jerusalem, a walled area in Jerusalem - not "the city of David"
• Jerusalem Walls National Park - not "the city of David"
• Wadi Hilweh, a neighborhood in the Palestinian Arab village of Silwan intertwined with an Israeli settlement called the City of David - not "the city of David"

It can be argued that the Israeli settlement intertwined with Wadi Hilweh and called by the settlers Ir David is distinct from the archaeological site it overlaps with and actively supports, but it's a somewhat hard argument to make, as Wadi Hilweh on the SE Hill, Ir David settlement, and the archaeological site are almost impossible to keep apart geographically, which is by design so, not by chance. But for the sake of completeness, I'd have nothing against reattaching a reworded item:

• "Ir David ('City of David'), Israeli settlement in the Palestinian neighborhood of Wadi Hilweh"

Arminden (talk) 11:38, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

• Jerusalem itself was frequently known as the City of David, long before the region south of the mount was identified archaeologically. This is biblical. Zero^talk 00:46, 14 April 2026 (UTC)