Talk:Chimichanga

Tex Mex

This is Tex Mex, nothing to do with the Mexican stuff.

BTW, the whole article is completely made up promotional stuff for a pseudo-Mexican restaurant in the US —Preceding unsigned comment added by 15.203.169.228 (talk) 09:58, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

"This thing is not mexican, there is no source that can prove that" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.223.52 (talk) 04:40, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

The chimichanga is also not TexMex, but eventually spread from Southern Arizona to TexMex. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 13:46, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

@Barefoot through the chollas exactly. Tex-Mex should not be mentioned in the intro. ~2026-31553-47 (talk) 14:20, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Pronunciation with [æ]

I've been discussing, ordering and eating chimichangas for almost 50 years, in the Tucson area mostly, but also as far afield as the U.S. east coast and the UK, and have never heard anyone use the vovel [æ] in the third syllable. The claim needs a very solid source or correction to the vowel actually used. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 22:18, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

Yeah. I've never heard anything but [tʃɪ.miːˈtʃɑŋ.ɡə] or something close to it my entire life. Will edit once I have access to a PC to show multiple pronunciations with the original one as a secondary. 2600:100C:B05F:A3A5:0:2C:1CA5:ED01 (talk) 00:27, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Right, except for the length marked for the second vowel (pretty much guaranteed not long due to being unstressed), yours is the only version I've ever heard in anglicized speech. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 13:05, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

Good grief. It's been re-mutilated? Or never was repaired? I've never heard an anglophone from anywhere pronounce the name with [æ]. Doesn't mean it doesn't occur now and then in territories far removed from Baja Arizona, but it's definitely not the model for the English-language version in an encyclopedia. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 21:00, 15 May 2026 (UTC)

I may have discovered the problem in trying to correct this. It appears that short ɑ is presently blocked from appearing before a nasal in the English diaphonemic system that's been set up; the sequence produces an error. I've just now requested that the glitch be repaired. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 09:03, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

Wolfdog has made a valiant attempt to get the pronunciation right, but it appears that the system still insists that the stressed vowel be long. Paciencia. Ever more curious, though: does anybody know where the version with /æ/ is accepted as normal? Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 20:09, 23 May 2026 (UTC)

bfdia 19

this appeared as a recommended character in pin's mall in bfdia 19. 216.10.217.96 (talk) 22:17, 9 May 2025 (UTC)

Chimichanga Intro

Due to chimichanga being originally from Arizona, the first sentence of the intro should mention this in replacement of lumping it in with "Tex-Mex". ~2026-31553-47 (talk) 14:19, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

At least one source says Or, it originated in northern Mexico a few decades earlier, the creation of either rancheros or Chinese immigrants. Other sources disagree on where in Arizona. So where the origin isn't conclusive, you'd have to be kind of cagey about the language, like The chimichanga was popularized in Arizona, or something like that. IMHO it's fine as it is with the origin being discussed in its own section.

For Tex-Mex, it seems fine if you want to de-emphasize it. It looks like most sources don't even mention it. So you might consider something like, The chimichanga is popular in Southwestern U.S. cuisine and has also become popular in Tex-Mex.

— W.andrea (talk) 16:12, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Good solution. It's not intrinsically Tex-Mex, but has been adopted there. Declaring it Tex-Mex reminds me of the reviewer who both dissed Ronstadt's first Canciones de mi padre album and declared in was Tex-Mex -- clueless of her purpose, her father's origins, and the sources of the songs. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 16:41, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

@Barefoot through the chollas Yes 👏 thank you ~2026-31553-47 (talk) 21:28, 27 May 2026 (UTC)

Giving this just a tiny bit more thought, it's easy to conclude that mention of Tex-Mex is unnecessary and a bit misleading. Unnecessary because the Tex-Mex article states clearly "(Tex-Mex) is a subtype of Southwestern cuisine found in the American Southwest". So that's already covered. A bit misleading in that other geotypes aren't mentioned, e.g. New Mexican cuisine, distinct enough to have its own article, and chimichangas are common in the state. The Southwestern cuisine article makes it quite clear that both Tex-Mex and New Mexican are subtypes. I suppose both could be mentioned, but there seems to be no point, since both are characterized as Southwestern. Upshot: I propose deleting mention of Tex-Mex in the lead. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 18:34, 1 June 2026 (UTC)