Talk:British fascism

History?

I thought a general article like this would actually include a brief history of Fascism in Britain but it has nothing. One is left going to each of the minor splinter groups and each of their leaders' pages to try and piece together what happened in the 1920s and 1930s. This is a major deficit of this article that limits its usefulness. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 01:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

B Good point! I may well write one soon, possibly today. — Richard BB 06:15, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Should this article move/develop to Fascism in Britain?

I don't personally think that there should be anything intrinsically British about fascism. Search results in books (please don't burn them) are:

• "Fascism in Britain" gets "About 28,700 results"
• "British fascism" gets "About 11,900 results"

GregKaye 18:22, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

More dates please

This article discusses British Fascism in the 1930s and maybe also in the 1920s. This should be stated in the lead section. We should also mention post-war Neo-Fascism in Britain, with relevant wikilinks. Verbcatcher (talk) 22:59, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Concern about bias and national insult.

The article starts: "British fascism was based on British nationalism."

It seems to contradict its (Wikipedia's) own article which it links to.

It's like saying: "Fascism is based on patriotism for America."

The existence of Britain is not "fascist" or controversial. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.241.1 (talk) 18:52, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

No contradiction. The article Fascism begins, "Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism." TFD (talk) 21:20, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

Fascism

Could anyone change the title of this Wikipedia page? Change the letter "f" to a capital "F"? Charlieo308 (talk) 21:59, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

... Charlieo308 (talk) 22:09, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

No, the lower case "f" is grammatically correct as fascism isn't a proper noun. — Czello 09:29, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Removing "Other influential groups in the 1930s" section

I've made a couple of attempts to remove this section but it is being reverted so explaining here the reason for the removal. I added this section within the last two weeks and it is incorrect. I added it based on a misreading of one of the sources. As it's incorrect, it shouldn't be in the article. Instead, I'm going to replace the section with two others - British fascism during WWII and British fascism after WWII - with expansion requests to encourage others to add to those sections. --Woofboy (talk) 11:29, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

That's fine; you could have said in edit summaries. I'll self-revert. — Czello 11:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Needs update to include Reform UK

Should a section be added to include the modern rise of fascism under Nigel Farage? 94.126.151.90 (talk) 14:01, 28 August 2025 (UTC)

It's something that could be debated, but would need sources and such to back it up. Certainly, it would have to be added in as 'contested' because there's no mainstream acceptance or consensus of Reform as such, even if their social base and some parts of their rhetoric and programme share similarities. You cannot state it as fact, though.

I'd be more interested in post-BNP fascism insofar as it has been fragmented and has shifted away from discrete political parties and into decentralised networks orbiting around 'notables' on social media, e.g., Stephen Yaxley-Lennon and so on. It would also be worth discussing the integration of British fascism into networks of American capital, think-tanks, and far-right political figures. There are mainstream or widely accepted sources on all of these, and you'll find reporting from pretty much every respectable source about the former in particular, e.g., the BBC.

The two latter points could be added without much difficulty or controversy, but Reform's inclusion-even in a contested sense-would be controversial and should be approached cautiously so one's hard work doesn't go to waste by some right-wing user reverting it wantonly. LevatorScapulaeSyndrome (talk) 21:03, 3 October 2025 (UTC)

Usually parties that have no connection with or identify with historical fascism are not labelled fascist or neo-fascist. Farage's party is better seen as a splinter of the Conservative Party. But it is worth describing the evolution of the BUF into the NF, BNP, EDL, etc., because there is historical continuity of people and ideas. TFD (talk) 00:16, 4 October 2025 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I do actually agree that Reform isn't fascist, and I think they're just right-populist with a free market fanaticism on the side that stems from Farage's own Thatcherism+. The economic approach is contradictory w/ fascism's corporatism (state-capital confederation to guide production in the interest of the nation) is something that, say, Trump has taken on heavily in his 2nd term, but that Farage has never been interested in because, you could argue, he is in the pocket of American capital and so has no interest in building up British capital and tying it into the state. And, while Farage and Reform clearly don't respect due process and the institutions of democracy, there's not much evidence they're completely anti-democratic, though admittedly that remains to be seen.

However, that would be original research, and it's worth noting that, to the best of my knowledge, there are articles in 'respectable sources' and perhaps even academic ones arguing that they are, so it could be worth including those arguments + the counter-arguments.

That said, I think a higher priority should be to include the post-BNP stuff, both the EDL and the more recent transition to decentralised networks around notable individuals on social media. I also notice that the article is actually missing a ton of stuff between the BUF and the BNP despite the NF and whatnot being extremely important in the development of British fascism. I agree that this simply must be filled in, and at present the article is outright incomplete even if you're just going by the most conventional fascist groups! LevatorScapulaeSyndrome (talk) 07:39, 4 October 2025 (UTC)