Talk:Assuwa

Taruisa and Thrace

Wilusiya is commonly identified with Ilion, but, perhaps, Taruisa is not Troas but Thrace.

Troas seems more likely due to the fact that Thrace was not pronounced with a sibilant. Khepidjemwa'atnefru

Propose renaming page "Assuwa league"

More descriptive name. Categorystuff (talk) 18:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Were the people of Wilusa early Phrygians like Euripides claimed?

Or is that anachronistic? Or is the answer even known? -Tawaki (talk) 18:50, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Not really sure what's going on here

Botterweg, Permanentaccounts wrote that the below section is pending your response.

Permanentaccounts, talk pages are for discussing improvements to the article; you usually want to use a user sandbox or draftspace for drafting, then follow the WP:CWW procedures when they're fit to be copied over into the article proper. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 06:17, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

removed per comment

--Permanentaccounts (talk) 07:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Courtesy link: what was originally below is at User:Permanentaccounts/sandbox. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 07:05, 22 November 2024 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Pasuhalta (region) into Assuwa

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section. A summary of the conclusions reached follows.

No consensus with discussion stale for more than 6 months; significant page changes since the last comment here suggest that at least some of the discussion is redunant. Klbrain (talk) 08:48, 27 July 2025 (UTC)

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No actual content beyond the fact that the location is unknown, the given etymology is speculation as Pasuhalta is not mentioned in that source. A WP:BEFORE only shows more sources (e.g. Hittite Landscape and Geography, p. 265) that confirm that we don't know anything, including about its geography, as it has only been mentioned in a single fragment with no additional context. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:41, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

It has appeared as a red link at [[Ancient regions of Anatolia] for years hence the separate article. The relevance is the Hittite source (a language w/ Indo-Iranian origins) and the source of the root. Mayrhofer was doing a treatise on language, not geography. You are correct - the place name is only mentioned in one document. See Cyrus the Great article for precedent. Permanentaccounts (talk) 21:57, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

We can't guess the etymology of a place name just because a part of the word appears to correspond to a Hittite root (it is not even clear whether the place name is itself Hittite in origin). Etymologies are often debated, as multiple derivations from the same language can lead to similar names.

Not clear what specific precedent at Cyrus the Great you are pointing to (I'm guessing not Cyrus himself, as he is well-attested from a multitude of documents). Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:27, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Notice put on source page Ancient regions of Anatolia --Permanentaccounts (talk) 22:26, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

The notice is misleading, I haven't proposed merging either Ancient regions of Anatolia itself or "many of the regions" here, only Pasuhalta as there is virtually no sourcing on it. Also, please do not remove other users' comments. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Why is a linear A name for Assuwa used

Linear a is not deciphered why are citing 1990's to 2020's studies that have assuwa in linear a the name is speculative very speculative indeed so we should at least mark it that way Theopedias (talk) 12:15, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

Honestly, this is not even the most speculative thing in the article. I'm doing some cleanup, but FWIW the sound values of Linear A are relatively worked out. The stubborn part of the problem is the language! Botterweg (talk) 14:58, 11 June 2026 (UTC)

and Well Linear A proper names have not been identified they probably exist but we do not know their language or what they were I predict that it takes until like 2050 to decipher linear A maybe even 2100/2150 so the asuwa claim is ambiguos plus Aswjia is well known in Bronze Age Greek and fits the phonology of the time. so I think we should piut it as either hypothetical or just remove it entirely. Theopedias (talk) 19:24, 11 June 2026 (UTC)