Talk:Arthur Chatto

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. Track your hook after promotion. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Dclemens1971 (talk) 17:19, 31 August 2026 (UTC)

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• ... that Arthur Chatto, the great-nephew of Queen Elizabeth, posted thirst traps on his social media?

• Source: https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2019/01/introducing-arthur-chatto

• • ALT1: ... that Arthur Chatto became the first British royal family member to join the Royal Marines? Source: https://www.businessinsider.com/queen-grandnephew-arthur-chatto-to-join-royal-marines-2021-9
  • ALT2: ... that Queen Elizabeth's great-nephew Arthur Chatto worked as a personal trainer in Scotland? Source: http://web.archive.org/web/20250428232220/https://people.com/royals/princess-margarets-grandson-arthur-chatto/
  • ALT3: ... that at 17, Queen Elizabeth's great-nephew Arthur Chatto hiked several mountains in the Alps? Source: https://inmont.it/en/cervino-con-il-nipote-della-regina-elisabetta/
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/I Can't Say No to the Lonely Girl

Converted from a redirect by Jishara (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 31 past nominations.

Jishara (talk) 05:12, 25 July 2026 (UTC).

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QPQ: Done.

Overall: I live in Scotland and know people who have hiked mountains, so to me that hook is not that interesting. Being a personal trainer seems quite mundane, many non-working royals have jobs. The main hook seems fine. Sahaib (talk) 20:21, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

He was not the first member of the royal family to join the Royal Marines; Prince Edward was, although he did not complete the training. ItsShandog (talk) 13:41, 25 July 2026 (UTC)

Great-aunt or Grand-aunt

Another editor keeps changing it to "grand‑aunt", which is not a common term. Most sources use "great‑aunt". I do not see the point in changing it here while keeping "great" on other pages. I want to get consensus, as I think "great‑aunt" is the proper form to use, so we are not going back and forward. ItsShandog (talk) 15:28, 9 September 2026 (UTC)

Great aunt is the correct terminology. Never heard of grand aunt being used, at least not in proper context. Keivan.f^Talk 00:08, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

I think great-aunt is better, in accordance with WP:READABLE Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 02:44, 10 September 2026 (UTC)

Thank you both for your replies, it seems the editor who doesn't agree with that wants to continue to change it. ItsShandog (talk) 17:02, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Queen Elizabeth II may have had four children and eight grandchildren of her own, but this is just me putting my foot down and calling out the non-correctness of the term "great-aunt/nephew". ItsShandog's reversions feel like he's trying to assert ownership of this article, and actions like that can scare me away from visiting the page altogether. It shouldn't matter which term is in common use or not; Why don't we just ban use of the term "great-aunt/nephew", etc. (because I'll just assert that it can't be "correct" or "better", and gives an implication that the grandparents' siblings can't be "equal" to the grandparents themselves) and go with only "grand-aunt/nephew" no matter what going forward (especially in regard to the aunts/uncles who do not have children/grandchildren of their own at all)? Jim856796 (talk) 18:41, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

The common use term is the one that generally should be used, per WP:READABLE. Jishara (please ping upon response) (talk) 19:19, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

Whatever is the universally accepted term, that's the one that should be used. And in English it is "great-aunt" whether we like it or not. When it comes to the issue of ownership, I don't see the other user preventing you from making any other edits. It's just that per WP:STATUSQUO and in accordance with the consensus here, this time around they do have the ability to keep the page at its stable version (which does use the word "great-aunt"). Keivan.f^Talk 22:32, 14 September 2026 (UTC)

I hate being dragged into edit wars and back-and-forth fights. I've seen other well-written articles use "granduncle/aunt" just fine and are never changed to state "greatuncle/aunt"; why should it be any different here? You're just somebody who wants a parents' siblings to feel insulted and unequal. Such people, if they're childless, are going to be stuck with the BURDEN of correcting and scolding people for failing to get the term right. I will not give in to this common incorrect usage. I despise your insistence on enforcing such non-fairness, and I'm standing firm on "grand" no matter what. I'll just have to stay away from this article indefinitely becuase of your reversions, which can be seen as an assertion of ownership of this article. Maybe if I let a significant-enough amount of time pass before making this edit again, you reverting it on sight would be avoided. This is absolute deadlock. The usage of "great-aunt/uncle" doesn't need to be as common as it is today because of that term's non-correctness. Never mind readability; if grand and great are the same thing, i don't see the point in letting your reversion stand. No "great-mother/father/parent", no "great-aunt/uncle".Jim856796 (talk) 01:15, 21 September 2026 (UTC)