Talk:Allan Gilbert Cram
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related to Mildred Cram?
[edit]Mildred Cram. Old Seaport Towns of the South ; Drawings by Allan Gilbert Cram or Allen Gilbert Cram. 1917
- https://www.loc.gov/item/17028900/
- https://archive.org/details/oldseaporttowns00cram
- https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Cram%2C+Allan+G.+%28Allan+Gilbert%29%2C+ill%22
- https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Cram%2C+Mildred%2C+1889-1985%22
Piñanana (talk) 08:01, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- https://fau.digital.flvc.org/islandora/object/fau%3A83057 yes Allan Gilbert Cram
- Piñanana (talk) 08:09, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- Piñanana I saw your query at Wikidata and updated the name there. I also saw your archived query at Meta. I suggest that you copy the evidence to a new section on this talk page and Wikipedia:Move the page to Allan Gilbert Cram. That will involve deleting the redirect you created, but I think that should happen automatically as you created it yourself and it has no further history. Then you can update the name where it occurs in the article. TSventon (talk) 21:21, 8 December 2025 (UTC)
- Also, on Wikidata, Allan Gilbert Cram (Q4731662) the artist seems to be the same person as Allan Gilbert Cram (Q76275207) the peerage person, so they should probably be merged. TSventon (talk) 03:30, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- https://www.thepeerage.com/p65576.htm
- is this reliable?
- Piñanana (talk) 04:59, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- Parkyns baronets ?
- Piñanana (talk) 05:05, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- You can check Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. thepeerage.com is regarded as unreliable by en Wikipedia, but it is used by Wikidata. Cram's page references Burke's peerage, which is listed as reliable, and can be checked by searching Google books for Allan Gilbert Cram Burkes. And yes, his wife was the daughter of a Parkyns baronet. TSventon (talk) 05:24, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- https://www.thepeerage.com/p65576.htm#i655755 Sylvia Dorothy Parkyns, Child of Sir Thomas Mansfield Forbes Parkyns, 6th Bt. and Beatrice Crawford, page 2069, Townend, Peter. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 105th edition. London, U.K.: Burke's Peerage Ltd, 1970.
- Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage,
- Daughter of Thomas Mansfield Forbes Parkyns
- "Allan Gilbert Cram , of New York , U.S.A. , and has issue .
- https://books.google.com/books?id=e6YKFYFp2AQC&q=1931+Allan+Gilbert+Cram 1963 – Page 1891 - The marriage was dissolved 1931 ." :
- https://books.google.com/books?id=b5tK-z6rw-4C&q=Allan+Gilbert+Cram 1959 – Page 1747
- Downloadable https://books.google.com/books?id=WlYpUjX0ARkC&pg=PA1835&dq=Sylvia%20Dorothy+1912+Allan+Gilbert+Cram 1929 – Page 1835
- Piñanana (talk) 06:42, 9 December 2025 (UTC)
- You can check Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. thepeerage.com is regarded as unreliable by en Wikipedia, but it is used by Wikidata. Cram's page references Burke's peerage, which is listed as reliable, and can be checked by searching Google books for Allan Gilbert Cram Burkes. And yes, his wife was the daughter of a Parkyns baronet. TSventon (talk) 05:24, 9 December 2025 (UTC)