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Ai is Japanese given name
[edit]Ai (あい、アイ、愛、藍、亜衣) is Japanese given name(219.160.56.135 (talk) 08:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)).
Move?
[edit]- The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 07:55, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
- Upper case as the majority of entries in the page are abbreviations Twilightchill t 12:21, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Comment a large portion of the page is not. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 12:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. I am not sure this qualifies as an "uncontroversial" move. ~Amatulić (talk) 20:38, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Comment a large portion of the page is not. 65.95.14.96 (talk) 12:56, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:DABNAME ("A word is preferred to an abbreviation"). Quite a few of the entries are words, people, or places called "Ai". In addition, AI (disambiguation) looks a lot like Al (disambiguation) in many fonts. — AjaxSmack 18:46, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Rather than move to AI; given the size, wouldn't it be better to separate Ai (disambiguation) from AI (disambiguation) ? - Rod57 (talk) 19:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
To the Guardians of Wikipedia (whoever they may be)
[edit]Okay, I get it: Some high school in Delaware, Alexis I. duPont High School (whose initials should be AID anyway, it seems to me) – that qualifies as being listed in 'Ai (disambiguation)'; but the Appraisal Institute (to which I belong), the leading American organization in the field of real estate appraisal – which shows on their website that they have copyrighted "AI" (see http://www.appraisalinstitute.org/ ) – they do not. The second time I added the organization, I pointed that out; and someone still took them out of the list. What is the deal anyway? It is bad enough that I have to fight for 'notability' on albums and rock bands and artists that I have written entire articles on; but now, we have to keep the disambiguation lists short? When I first started writing in Wikipedia, it was a lot of fun; and I really felt like I was contributing. I am no big deal, but I am closing in on 3,000 edits and have written over 100 original articles. Now almost every time I put something in, somebody reverts it immediately – and just to rub it in, I get a message saying that this has happened. If you people are trying to run me off, it is working. Shocking Blue (talk) 17:49, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Can you add that information from the website to the article Appraisal Institute? -- JHunterJ (talk) 18:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Resolved at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#To the Guardians of Wikipedia (whoever they may be). PrimeHunter (talk) 18:47, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
- Said resolution is recorded at a section on an archive. Perhaps it's not worth noting every instance of cluelessness in a talk complaint, but I'm noting one of the non-reasons for the resolution of this complaint: SB cites the copyright on the Web page, as if it could conceivably bear on the question. No one can copyright "AI", and all SB should have inferred from the page is that copyright was claimed on the literary work that the page embodies, and therefore various extensive quotes from the page might (or not) infringe on rights of the org'n. Many individuals or orgs may have registered trademarks or service marks, of the form "AI", which grant each of them with a theoretically exclusive right to use the name, for promotional purposes, when it refers to something in the respective category of product or service that their TM states their mark applies to. (My WAG is BTW that the presumption that the range covered doesn't overlap the range of an earlier mark with the same text is weak at best, and that all the copyright office does is either to document your request, or search superficially, so that you have to sue the infringer to enforce your TM/SM. So holding, or claiming, a mark is not very relevant to any desire to have us acknowledge it.)
Having said that much, the criterion for having an entry on a particular Dab page is not whether an entity has some (exclusive or non-exclusive) legal right to the term, but whether the term is likely to be used by some of those seeking info, on a topic that has been written about, and is sufficiently notable to have survived deletion. Presumably that is what is reflected by whatever resolution was reached or is currently in effect.
--Jerzy•t 05:04, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
- Said resolution is recorded at a section on an archive. Perhaps it's not worth noting every instance of cluelessness in a talk complaint, but I'm noting one of the non-reasons for the resolution of this complaint: SB cites the copyright on the Web page, as if it could conceivably bear on the question. No one can copyright "AI", and all SB should have inferred from the page is that copyright was claimed on the literary work that the page embodies, and therefore various extensive quotes from the page might (or not) infringe on rights of the org'n. Many individuals or orgs may have registered trademarks or service marks, of the form "AI", which grant each of them with a theoretically exclusive right to use the name, for promotional purposes, when it refers to something in the respective category of product or service that their TM states their mark applies to. (My WAG is BTW that the presumption that the range covered doesn't overlap the range of an earlier mark with the same text is weak at best, and that all the copyright office does is either to document your request, or search superficially, so that you have to sue the infringer to enforce your TM/SM. So holding, or claiming, a mark is not very relevant to any desire to have us acknowledge it.)
- Resolved at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#To the Guardians of Wikipedia (whoever they may be). PrimeHunter (talk) 18:47, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
Requested move 29 October 2023
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 23:29, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
Ai → Ai (disambiguation) – In 2008, this page had the disambiguation name removed from the title due to WP:MDP. Given the rise of artificial intelligence, the reason no longer applies to the title and should be redirected to that article. 1989 (talk) 16:28, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- Leaning oppose: Artificial intelligence is identified as the primary topic for "AI", but this is "Ai" with a lowercase 'i'. What leads you to believe there's a primary topic for "Ai"? This is not the conventional capitalization of the abbreviation for Artificial intelligence. The article about Artificial intelligence doesn't even mention "Ai" (as far as I notice). "Ai" can refer to many subjects – e.g., a given name, a surname, the name of several towns, the name of several rivers, a species of sloth, a top-level domain on the Internet, the suffix for Adobe Illustrator files, etc. Wikipedia article titles also cannot distinguish between "Ai" and "ai". — BarrelProof (talk) 18:25, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- @BarrelProof: While you may have a point about the many subjects, per Rreagan007, "ai" should be a WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT for artificial intelligence because the term "AI" is not always capitalized. When someone searches for it, they might not think to have the wording capitalized in order to find it. Also, when you see this page, the first thing you see is the artificial intelligence article link but is named AI. 1989 (talk) 22:54, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per WP:SMALLDETAILS; a lowercase "i" does not primarily refer to Artificial intelligence or anything else. Steel1943 (talk) 19:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- Move to AI (disambiguation), as the current Ai disambiguation page contains both capitalized and uncapitalized entries. "Ai" should redirect to Artificial intelligence per WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT, as someone typing in "ai" into the search bar is very likely to be looking for the Artificial intelligence article. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:05, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
- As 'Ai' is a word or name, WP:DABNAME indicates
A word is preferred to an abbreviation, for example Arm (disambiguation) over ARM
which suggests 'Ai' is preferred over 'AI'. older ≠ wiser 02:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- As 'Ai' is a word or name, WP:DABNAME indicates
- Oppose per WP:SMALLDETAILS. InfiniteNexus (talk) 03:10, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose per all above. Disambiguation is needed for the non-acronym. Dicklyon (talk) 21:28, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose WP:SMALLDETAILS "ai" and "Ai" and "AI" are different terms -- 65.92.247.90 (talk) 21:54, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
- Oppose Per WP:SMALLDETAILS combined with the fact that people may be legitimately searching for the name "Ai". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:08, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
- Move The page serves to disambiguate different forms/combinations of A and I in that order:
AI is artificial intelligence, intellectual ability in machines and robots. Ai, AI or A.I. may also refer to ...
It is also the target for AI (disambiguation) used as a hat note from the Artificial intelligence article. Artificial intelligence is fairly clearly the primary target for AI, however capitalised (including stops or spaces). By default, the disambiguation page is also the target for ai. WP:DABNAME states:The title of a disambiguation page is the ambiguous term itself, provided there is no primary topic for that term. If there is a primary topic, then the tag "(disambiguation)" is added ...
WP:SMALLDETAILS is a shortcut to Wikipedia:Article titles#When a spelling variant indicates a distinct topic. Ai is inherently not a distinct topic. Consequently, on considering the applicable guidance it is appropriate to add the disambiguation tag as proposed. I can also see a case exists for targeting the various permutations of ai (in that order) to the Artificial intelligence article; though that is a separate question, I see it is already raised above. Cinderella157 (talk) 02:22, 5 November 2023 (UTC)