Talk:Action bias

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The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 19:16, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that football goalkeepers dive too much during penalty kicks? Source: The analysis of 286 penalty kicks in various soccer games in top leagues and championships worldwide shows that while the utility-maximizing behavior for goalkeepers is to stay in the goal's center during the kick, in 93.7% of the kicks the goalkeepers chose to jump to their right or left. This non-optimal behavior suggests that a bias in goalkeepers' decision making might be present. According to our hypothesis, the reason for this non-optimal behavior is "action bias"
  • ALT1: ... that football goalkeepers exhibit action bias during penalties by diving too much? Source: same as ALT0
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/ENCE

Created by NicoleIsWriting (talk). Nominated by FacetsOfNonStickPans (talk) at 09:47, 14 June 2022 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Good to go with the original hook; a very interesting (and important) article, thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 10:38, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

It was a mistake to put this in the Did You Know? section because the section about sports is almost entirely based on one academic article that deals with the issue of soccer penalty kicks psychologically, along with a superficial probabilistic notion that kick direction follows a bell curve.

In fact, as pretty much any TV commentator will remark when a crucial penalty kick is about to occur, a goalkeeper cannot respond fast enough after a kick has begun, particularly if the kick goes to the corner. Therefore, the optimal strategy is to choose either left or right and then start to move in the hope that one has chosen correctly. Staying still means almost zero prevention of a goal, while moving either left or right means close to 50% prevention. Martindo (talk) 03:01, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi Martinado - I noticed this too. I'm going to fix it (see below). I still think it was fun to make Did You Know, but should have been more accurate. It isn't really action bias, but guessing. See what you think of what I put. cheers Billyshiverstick (talk) 21:14, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Well done. I then cut the paragraph following yours, because it drifts back into speculation. It would be great if you could find a reference from a coach or player to support your cogent paragraph. Also, perhaps add a transitional sentence at the beginning: "However, ..." to emphasize contrast with the cited theory. Martindo (talk) 00:59, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

peters and waterman In Search of Excellence

"action bias" is just the noun-speak version of "bias for action", which is from a bestselling business self-help book from 1982: "In Search of Excellence: Lessons from America's Best-Run Companies" by Thomas J. Peters & Robert H. Waterman Jr.. According to ngram-search the term originates there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.123.8.175 (talk) 15:06, 21 June 2022 (UTC)

Sports issues

Hi - the researchers do not understand soccer (football) goalkeeping. Just because their words are in print, doesn't mean they deserve to be in Wikipedia. I'm going to fix the area. Please don't revert. Thanks Billyshiverstick (talk) 21:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)