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Please add the following comment to the ongoing talk page discussion regarding the lead section phrasing and Political Zionism on my behalf:
Hi everyone. I have followed this whole thread closely, and it seems the discussion is losing focus with the debate over Cultural versus Political Zionism. The core issue here is WP:NPOV and how we accurately reflect historical facts in the lead section without synthesizing a narrative.
Zero argues that because the Basel Program had underlying political goals like a future state and an army, the word "settlement" is incorrect and "colonization" is justified. With respect, this is a massive leap and borders on WP:NOR. Seeking political sovereignty and the ability to defend oneself does not retroactively turn a movement into a colonial enterprise. Those are the standard characteristics of a national liberation movement.
Let us look directly at the primary source being discussed. The First Zionist Congress (1897) formulated the Basel Program using explicit German phrasing regarding "Besiedlung". The direct and accurate translation for "Besiedlung" is "settlement". If the early Zionist movement viewed itself purely as an imperial colonial project, the German language has the word "Kolonisation". They chose Besiedlung. Insisting on translating Besiedlung as colonization in the lead section simply to force a modern critical framework onto the text is a severe violation of neutrality.
Furthermore, equating Political Zionism with colonization directly contradicts Tier 1 mainstream scholarship. A defining feature of actual colonization is the existence of a metropole or a mother country that extracts resources. Scholars like Derek Penslar clarify that Zionism fundamentally lacked a metropole, as it was a movement of refugees and diaspora Jews returning to their ancestral homeland, not an empire expanding its borders. Similarly, Gideon Shimoni thoroughly demonstrates that Zionism is fundamentally an ethno-nationalist movement for self-determination and national revival, rather than an imperialist venture.
Yes, Political Zionists wanted a state. But seeking self determination in a historical homeland without a mother country is national revival, not colonization.
Presenting the term "colonization" as an undisputed fact in the lead gives WP:UNDUE weight to the Settler Colonial paradigm. That paradigm is a highly debated critical theory in sociology, not the primary historical consensus of what Zionism is. The lead must reflect the mainstream consensus. We need to replace the word with "settlement" or "national revival" so the article finally complies with WP:NPOV.
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1. The First Zionist Congress, *The Basel Program* (1897): "Die zweckmäßige Förderung der Besiedlung Palästinas mit jüdischen Ackerbauern, Handwerkern und Gewerbetreibenden." 2. Penslar, Derek. *Zionism: An Emotional State*. Rutgers University Press, 2023. 3. Shimoni, Gideon. *The Zionist Ideology*. Brandeis University Press, 1995. Idand34 (talk) 07:45, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
Not done The restrictions exist for a reason, and you are not allowed to request someone proxy-edit to end-run around them. - The Bushranger One ping only 16:54, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
I want to create the page from the scratch. I am a fan of Arash Dabestani's literary work. He is a blind Iranian writer with tremendous short stories, podcast project, etc. I would like to have the permission to write an entry for him. I just submitted the English draft of the page. Now I want to write the Farsi version. Sulzbi-240 (talk) 21:36, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
- This is English Wikipedia so all articles need to be in English. If you wish to write the article in Farsi, please use the Farsi Wikipedia project. Spiderone(Talk to Spider) 21:48, 28 July 2026 (UTC)
Not done Even if the page was protected (it isn't) this is, as mentioned, not the Farsi Wikipedia. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:58, 28 July 2026 (UTC)