Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CSUSB Transit Center

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.‎

The result was redirect to San Bernardino Express. And merge from history as editors may desire.  Sandstein  21:14, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

CSUSB Transit Center

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Non-notable bus (not train) stop. No significant coverage in sources -- all discuss bus line as a whole. Furthermore, the title is a promotional neologism by an editor who created multiple neologism articles --. the "station" itself, when rarely discussed in sources, referred to as "the CSUSB stop" or similar. A non-notable advertisement of an article. Regards, James(^talk/_contribs) 23:58, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:39, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:39, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Comment: Omnitrans distinguishes between Transit Centers (off-road places to transfer between buses) and Transfer Centers (on-street places to transfer between buses). Among the transit and transfer centers called out on the Omnitrans system map, CSUSB is not one of them. So it would appear Omnitrans themselves do not consider the stop notable. However, the Google satellite map of the stop sure looks like there is an off-road place to transfer. At the very least, the article needs to be moved from "CSUSB Transit Center" (capitalized Transit Center) to "CSUSB transit center" (lower case transit center), because the name of the stop is not a proper noun, or "CSUSB station". In a Facebook post, Omnitrans refers to it as "CSUSB sbX station." I don't believe the content is intended as an advertisement; I believe it is a good faith post. We don't get to use WP:TRANS as it is only there for reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thisisnotatest (talk • contribs) 08:03, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Keep Major Transit Center for the city, allows transfer to sbX green which is a brt line not just a "bus". sbX is the first and only rapid transit line in the Inland Empire. If you ride the sbX, they refer to it as the "California State University Transit Center" in their intercom. Also, CSUSB is the only place with multiple connections to other bus lines besides the SB Transit Center. Note, all sbX stops are stations per omnitrans since it is bus rapid transit; if you're not familiar with this form of transportation TorriTorri (James), I suggest reading a bit on it and see the branding of brt. See SDSU Transit Center. Thanks, House1090 (talk) 07:09, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

Rename if kept: I personally would call it a transit center, based on the Google satellite image. However, Omnitrans does not call it a transit center or even call it out as a transfer center, nor apparently does CSUSB, and I haven't seen any reliable sources calling it a transit center. Unless we can find a reliable source that calls it a transit center, Wikipedia can't call it a transit center. That doesn't necessarily point to deletion; it might point to a renaming as "CSUSB Station" which is what Omnitrans has branded it. The SDSU Transit Center article appears to use "Transit Center" because SDSU and (inconsistently) MTS call the station the SDSU Transit Center, and there are articles by an NBC broadcasting station and by Mass Transit magazine calling it the SDSU Transit Center. I'm not ready to say keep or delete for the CSUSB Transit Center article, but the CSUSB Transit Center article is definitely mis-named. Thisisnotatest (talk) 07:55, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

• Delete I tend to favor more "keep" leeway for articles about places, but as far as I can tell (from the sources listed as well as satellite and streetview images), this is a bus stop and not much else. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:36, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

• Comment – If not independently notable, a selective merge to San Bernardino Express would enhance the latter article, which presently has little content about it. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:23, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

No objection to a merge, but the title should not remain as a redirect.--Regards, James(^talk/_contribs) 21:35, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:23, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —UY Scuti ^Talk 17:48, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

• Selective Merge to San Bernardino Express, which presently has little content about the transit center. This will enhance and improve the merge target article, as per WP:PRESERVE. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:01, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

• Merge to San Bernardino Express, as per NA1000. Not enough for a standalone article, but would make a positive contribution to the target article. Onel5969 ^{TT me} 11:56, 7 January 2016 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.