Template talk:Translation

Slightly confused

Hey there, I'm not sure if anyone has this template watchlisted, but I'm not 100% clear on the proper usage of this template. Are we supposed to add the translated content inside the template, like:

{{translation|The quick brown fox}}

or

{{translation}} The quick brown fox

It doesn't seem to make any visible difference either way, so that's why I'm confused. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:45, 25 July 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: Seems more futureproof to put it inside, so that whatever markup the template thinks it needs can be applied. I don't know if this template needs updating to put apostrophes around the quoted term, to match the {{lit}} template. --Lord Belbury (talk) 17:48, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

@Lord Belbury: Thanks for your input. The Indian Cinema Task Force tends to use this template to indicate translations of non-English film titles. I notice that MOS:TITLE#Translations seems to not want special formatting. I don't know what guideline {{lit}} is following. Regards, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:04, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb: According to the edit that added it a few months ago, MOS:SINGLE. --Lord Belbury (talk) 18:44, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 December 2020

Could a space please be added between "lit." and "transl."? I don't know of anything in MOS:ABBR that would provide for omitting the space. 207.161.86.162 (talk) 07:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC) 207.161.86.162 (talk) 07:59, 25 December 2020 (UTC)

 Done Danski454 (talk) 01:52, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Edit request

Please edit the documentation to make it clear that the meaning parameter should be a string surrounded by single quotes (eg 'meaning', not the current example "not is". (Per MOS:SINGLE and consistent with similar templates, such as the lit parameter in the Template:Lang-x/doc series). Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: According to the page's protection level you should be able to edit the page yourself. If you seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

If I could have done it myself I would have done, but I am unfamiliar with the coding in "example": "\"not is\"",. Perhaps you or another editor could assist please. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 17:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

 Done * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 20:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

gloss template versus translation template for inline translation

When an inline gloss is a translation, what are he considerations for using {{gloss}} versus using {{translation}}? Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 13:27, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics § Template consistency

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics § Template consistency. Est. 2021 (talk · contribs) 10:25, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Style guidelines for multiple templates

See also: Template talk:Transliteration § Style guidelines for multiple templates

Are there style guidelines for the use of both {{translation}} and {{transliteration}} in conjunction with {{lang}}? E.g., "להד״​מ​ (lahada"m), לא ה​י​ו ד​ב​ר​י​ם מ​ע​ו​ל​ם (lo hayu dvarim meolam) - transl. such things never were, no way" -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 13:47, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

"Template:Transl." listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Template:Trans" listed at Redirects for discussion

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"Template:Trans." listed at Redirects for discussion

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Duplicate literal?

Why does {{translation|he|גָּמָל|Camel}} render as transl. he – transl. גָּמָל with transl. inserted twice? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 13:10, 1 April 2025 (UTC)

Template-protected edit suggestion on 30 August 2025: HTML italics

This template uses <nowiki> tags when using '' for italics, but wouldn't it be simpler to just use <i>?

• |<nowiki/>'' → |<i>
• |''<nowiki/> → |</i>

I put this change in the sandbox. diff

I also created testcases.

— W.andrea (talk) 00:21, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Is this fixing a problem with one or more transclusions of this template? When nowiki tags are present in a template like this, it is usually to prevent errors in some sort of edge case. I can't think of what it might be right now. – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:06, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

I saw the testcase you added and realized the tags are there for when the template is embedded in italics. Thanks for that. I withdraw my suggestion. — W.andrea (talk) 18:59, 2 September 2025 (UTC)

Good thinking. That test case should help someone like one of us in the future. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:16, 2 September 2025 (UTC)