Template talk:Centered quote

Enhancement for mobile view

The mobile view generally inject display: block property to tables make them scrollable on your phone screen, this is especially gives benefits to larger one. However, if this template include very short phrase, the template would be shortened, and shift to left. To fix the display issue, I used display: table property in the sandbox page, after submit my change, the template is properly displayed on the test cases. You can open the test cases on your phone to reproduce, or alternatively you can open mobile version of the test cases in this Responsive Website Tester. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 04:17, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: @Great Brightstar: Not sure about display:table. Due to some gross "width: 100% !important" CSS in Minerva, it still takes up the whole page width, instead of small and center, like the desktop skins. I've been meaning to get rid of the table layout altogether, and I think what I'm doing will accomplish what you're looking for as well. See testcases for what I have so far. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 02:32, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

That's a good idea, thank you. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 03:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Author versus speaker: need a parameter for both

Author versus speaker: need a parameter for both. As follows:

Representative example:

"I killed a man in Reno" — speaker, in Johnny Cash's "I Walk the Line"

… and obviously not …

"I killed a man in Reno" — Johnny Cash

Anticipating any casual objection that "the text constituting the value of the parameter can simply explain the relationship [to sentients, such as humans], so why bother?": Answer: The distinction really should be properly parameterized for machine-readability for ontologic purposes. Johnny Cash is indeed the author of the quote, so "author=Johnny Cash" is true, but he is obviously not the speaker. One can just imagine the machine learning datasets that might miseducate machines (for example, things such as a Google Answer Box, perhaps) into misapprehending that "Johnny Cash is an example of a murderer" and that "James Hetfield is the one who lost all his limbs". Can someone fix this? Thanks, Quercus solaris (talk) 21:47, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

{cq} isn't isn't supposed to be used in article space so such nuances aren't worth bothering with. EEng 10:00, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

It is used about 36,000 times in article space, but I agree with EEng that this is a distinction that is not worth noting. Where do we draw the line? When we display a quotation from a fiction book in the voice of the author, we do not imply or assume that the author necessarily believes or practices what is in the quotation, and any reasonable AI would not draw that conclusion either. Or when we quote Corey Lewandowski as saying "Trump is self-financing his campaign, so we don't have any donors", no reasonable person or AI would assume that Trump actually self-financed his campaign. A quotation is just a quotation (unless it's not, exactly), and brains are still needed to understand them. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:18, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, sloppy of me: I meant it's not supposed to be used in article space. Those uses should be purged. EEng 18:09, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

I think there is a talk page discussion that addressed that, and the result was to hide the decorative quote marks in article space. I don't think the template is objectionable in article space at this point. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:36, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Who says it's not supposed to used in article space? I use it all the time. I mean the documentation starts right off with "The template appears as follows in article space: Lorem ipsum dolor sit...", why would it say that if it's not OK to use in article space? Later on down in the documentation it does say the MOS recommends -- recommends -- to to use the HTML <blockquote> tag or the {{blockquote}} template instead. I only do the former when I'm writing in 1993, and {{blockquote}} is not an improvement I don't think, so for my part it's not suggestion worth following. Herostratus (talk) 13:50, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Should I mention that the actual lyric is "I shot a man in Reno"?--User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 16:43, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Edit request 23 July 2025

Description of suggested change:

Add a es:Usuario:Ilikeyoshi/Cita centrada as a spanish translation of ts (this) bc i can't make templates lol or hire someone else and put it in es:Usuario/Ilikeyoshi

Difference:

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[[es:Usuario:Ilikeyoshi/Cita centrada]]

Ilikeyoshi (talk) 17:53, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

 Not done: To find an equivalent template in another language, click "Wikidata item" in the "In other projects" menu (in Vector 2022; the location of this link depends on which skin you are using), then scroll to the bottom of that Wikidata page to find the language you want.

In this case, it appears that there is not a corresponding template in the Spanish Wikipedia. That project may have decided that it does not want a template like this. You should ask that project if it wants to create this template. If it is created (or located), the place to create a link to it is at the bottom of the Wikidata page, in the section called "Wikipedia". – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:27, 23 July 2025 (UTC)

Requested move 14 August 2026

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 05:48, 21 August 2026 (UTC)

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• Template:Cquote → Template:Centered quote
• Template:Rquote → Template:Reduced quote

– Per WP:TPN, quote: Template names should be made of one or more words, and describe the template clearly, as in {{Math topics sidebar}}. This new name would reduce confusion about the templates' purposes, and seemingly wouldn't cause any harm. Axolitl (talk | contribs) 05:08, 14 August 2026 (UTC)

• OK. Herostratus (talk) 05:30, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

  Just to clarify, you support the move? Axolitl (talk | contribs) 22:57, 17 August 2026 (UTC)

• Reduced quote sounds like the quote is reduced. Christian75 (talk) 07:30, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

  Because it is? From the documentation, quote Reduced quote – For quotes, this template, a variant of the {{Cquote}}, results in a floating quote with the article text wrapping around it, like an image. Axolitl (talk | contribs) 14:01, 15 August 2026 (UTC)

  Does not sound like the quote is "a shortened quote" from the doc you quoted. More like some wrapping around the quote. If the new names should be obviously, reduced quote is a bad choice. Christian75 (talk) 12:26, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

  Well, I'm not sure why the quote is called that, but this move request is more about compliance with WP:TPN. "Reduced quote" seems to be what has been used for a while with this template. Axolitl (talk | contribs) 16:38, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

  It's called a "reduced quote" because, instead of covering almost the entire width of the page, the quoted material is "reduced" to either the left or right side of the page with the article's text wrapping around the reduced quoted text. That's similar to how article text wraps around an image. And this is a good idea, so (see below). P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 10:32, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

• FWIW, Cquote and Rquote used to have the large light violet quote marks around them. Like this:

“ Here is an example of the original Cquote as made. As you can see, the large quote marks are still retained, but only work on talk pages now, for some reason. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat. Duis aute irure dolor in reprehenderit in voluptate velit esse cillum dolore eu fugiat nulla pariatur. Excepteur sint occaecat cupidatat non proident, sunt in culpa qui officia deserunt mollit anim id est laborum. ”

A number of editors liked this, thought it contributed to design and general interface friendliness (if a editor wanted to design a page that way, obviously, this was never required), and used it. But one editor loathed this like fire and didn't think editor should have this in their toolbox. He waged an obsessive, years-long battle against this (sometimes trying underhanded methods) but kept getting ties in RfC or TfD, until he finally got an RfC where it was something like 3-1 in favor of removing them, and got an admin who also didn't like them either to order them removed (from article pages). Some editors were sad about this ("where'd my quote marks go?"), but it's not a democracy and, just as in real life, a small minority (or one person) who are obsessive, tireless, ruthless, and will never give up can sometimes gain the day eventually. Oh well. People.

I still use Cquote and Rquote because I hope that someday this feature will be restored to the editor toolbox. You never know. Other than that I'm not sure why the template continues to exist. Herostratus (talk) 13:48, 16 August 2026 (UTC)

Interesting. I didn't know it wasn't always like this. Any opinion on the move? Axolitl (talk | contribs) 04:23, 18 August 2026 (UTC)

• Support. The history of these template names can be seen at this 2016 proposal that ignored template guidelines in picking new names for the templates. Ten years seems like a long enough time to have this error stand before correcting it. SMcCandlish tried to push for guideline-compliant names but was not heard. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:16, 17 August 2026 (UTC)
• Support. It's always a good idea to at least consider complying with a prominent and more contemporary community consensus, in this case that of a [ guideline ]. P.I. Ellsworth , ed. – welcome! – 10:32, 19 August 2026 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.