Talk:Zhu Baosan

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 01:26, 14 December 2024 (UTC)

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Zhu Baosan

• ... that the fortune left by Zhu Baosan (pictured) was reported to have been greatly diminished by his philanthropic activities?

• Source: "The Mourning Ceremonies for Mr. Chu Pao-san". The North-China Herald. 6 November 1926. p. 257. "Although Mr. Chu Pao-san was a successful merchant and had such numerous business interests, friends believe that he left only a small fortune, as his contributions to charity were so large."

• • ALT1: ... that the business interests of Zhu Baosan (pictured) ranged from banking and insurance to shipping and coal mining? Source: "The Mourning Ceremonies for Mr. Chu Pao-san". The North-China Herald. 6 November 1926. p. 257. "He promoted the Commercial’ Bank of China, the Ningpo Commercial Bank, the Chekiang Industrial Bank and the Chung Hua Commercial. and Savings Bank. He was an organizer of the Wah An Fire and Marine Insurance Company, the Wah Sing Insurance Company, and the China United Assurance Society. He was a director of the Liu Kiang and Chang Hsin Mining Companies. He was interested in the Nantao Tramway Company, the Tinghai Electric [Construction “Company” and the Chousan Electric Company. He was a director of the Chousan Steam Navigation Company, the Yung An Steamship Company, the Yung Leo Shipping Company, 'the Chang Ko Navigation Company, the Ta Tah Navigation Company and in several other shipping interests. He was a prominent shareholder in many cotton and flour mills, pap factories and other industrial enterprises."
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Falcón state (1 of 2)

Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 700 past nominations.

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC).

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy compliance:

• Adequate sourcing: - Close, but not quite. The cited North-China Herald article states, "his friends believe that he left only a small fortune", whereas the Wikipedia article states, "The North-China Herald wrote that, because of the extent of his philanthropic activities, his assets were greatly depleted and he only left a 'small fortune'." Because the source text attributes the "small fortune" perception to Zhu's friends, the article text should also attribute the claim to Zhu's friends instead of solely to the North-China Herald. A minor change to the text of the article would resolve this discrepancy; no change to the hook is needed.
• Neutral:
• Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: This review focuses on ALT0. Although ALT1 would pass, I find ALT0 to be more interesting because having business interests in multiple industries is not something I consider uncommon.

I have a couple of suggestions for the article that are unrelated to the nomination:

1. The sentence "As discussions were ongoing to ban prostitution in Shanghai in 1920, Zhu wrote the Municipal Council to advocate for active campaigns" could be more clear about Zhu's position on prostitution. The cited China Philanthropy Times article states that Zhu petitioned for "an active campaign to ban prostitution", which should ideally be stated more explicitly in the article text.
2. Grammatical variants of the word establish are used in the article eight times. Perhaps replacing some of those words with synonyms would improve the word variation.

Overall, good work on the article. Thanks for contributing this well-researched piece to Wikipedia. — Newslinger talk 03:52, 9 December 2024 (UTC)

• Hi Newslinger, I believe I've addressed your concerns in the article. I also offer ALT0a: ... that the fortune left by Zhu Baosan (pictured) was believed to have been greatly diminished by his philanthropic activities?.  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 11:08, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
  • Perfect! I prefer ALT0a's more precise wording. Thanks for addressing all of my suggestions.​ — Newslinger talk 09:39, 10 December 2024 (UTC)