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Latest comment: 1 month ago by Rjjiii in topic Shoes and shields

Did you know nomination

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Darth Stabro talk 14:18, 29 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

  • Source: Nores, Carlos; Muñiz, Arturo Morales; Rodríguez, Laura Llorente; Bennett, E. Andrew; Geigl, Eva-María (June 2015). "The Iberian Zebro: What Kind of a Beast Was It?". Anthropozoologica. 50 (1): 21–32. doi:10.5252/az2015n1a2. hdl:10651/34413.
    • ALT1: ... that, before zebros disappeared from the Iberian Peninsula, a medieval hunting treatise described them as delicious? Source: Nores, Carlos; Muñiz, Arturo Morales; Rodríguez, Laura Llorente; Bennett, E. Andrew; Geigl, Eva-María (June 2015). "The Iberian Zebro: What Kind of a Beast Was It?". Anthropozoologica. 50 (1): 21–32. doi:10.5252/az2015n1a2. hdl:10651/34413.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Looking Glass Girl
    • Comment: Because the exact identity of the species is debated, no image should be used for this article, if a hook is ran.
Moved to mainspace by Rjjiii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

Rjjiii (talk) 00:08, 4 August 2025 (UTC).Reply

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.
    Overall: Very interesting hooks on an equally interesting subject. Great job! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:55, 11 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

    new study

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    i think the non-dom2 wild horses in europe was lost around in the 1 century by modern crown group, what spreaded 2200 BC to europe. new study say, sorraia horse is part of this european "crown group". All horses of crown group (99% of european horses) are modern horses include polish konik, huzul and sorraia pony. But 1% is outside the crown group and has a genetic ancient node to yakutian and mongolian horses, that is the norwegian and shetland-pony. a horse what came with viking invasion from norge to orkney/scotia/island. This horse came with huns around the 3. century from yakutian/mongolian asia and was etablished in scandinavian. It spreaded with vikings about europe around 8-9. century e.g. Orkney, shetland, scotlands mythical kelpie horse, island pony and many of this pony has primitive markings and can Tölt, Pass, Paso, Foxtrott, Marcha, Rack, Speed Rack or Slow Gait. This Ambling Horses have a mutation by Gen DMRT3 what is born in the time of norge vikings in orkney and scotia and is spreaded worldwide by viking raids. It came with vikings to spain and later with spanish expansion of conquestadore in the new world e.g. to peru. This is exact the moument when the spanish source write from "Zebro". your sources are tooooo old, here is new sources.

    Bozlak, E., Radovic, L., Remer, V. et al. Refining the evolutionary tree of the horse Y chromosome. Sci Rep 13, 8954 (2023). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41598-023-35539-0 and Wutke S, Andersson L, Benecke N, Sandoval-Castellanos E, Gonzalez J, Hallsson JH, Lembi L, Magnell O, Morales-Muniz A, Orlando L, Pálsdóttir AH, Reissmann M, Muñioz-Rodríguez MB, Ruttkay M, Trinks A, Hofreiter M, Ludwig A (2016): The Origin of Ambling Horses. CURR BIOL 26, 697-698. DOI: 10.1016/j.cub.2016.07.001. http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(16)30752-7 2A0A:2782:3EA:8C00:7830:EF4C:8DBE:B5D7 (talk) 14:59, 30 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

    That could be true, but we need sources that are explicit about it to update the article. Do these explicitly talk about the zebros or the Sorraia horse? Regarding "your sources are tooooo old", the Spanish article was mostly expanded by 2018, but there's been a lot of genetic work on wild horses and E. hydruntinus in the past seven years, so there's absolutely room to update things, Rjjiii (talk) 16:34, 30 August 2025 (UTC)Reply

    Shoes and shields

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    Their hides were used to make shoes and shields...

    Genetic analysis of such a shoes and shields, if there are remains, may shed light on issue. Ultima Thulean (talk) 12:26, 27 April 2026 (UTC)Reply

    @Ultima Thulean, late reply: I would imagine so, but none of the sources mention any surviving hide that is clearly from a zebro. If one turns up, that would likely resolve the mystery. There was a somewhat similar situation, where people thought the North American locust that devoured whole farms in the nineteenth-century American midwest might be one of the still existing species of grasshopper in North America (that was just not reaching population size necessary for the transformation from grasshopper to locust). Around 2004, a study on a glacier that had partially melted and was packed full of the locusts made is possible to do some modern DNA analysis and prove that Melanoplus spretus was its own separate species. Rjjiii (talk) 19:59, 10 June 2026 (UTC)Reply