Talk:Yining

Why

Why is the city name Chinese? Its name is Kuldja. Just because China controls XinJiang doesn't mean we should HAN-ify everything.+

Because Yining is the modern ENGLISH COMMONNAME and the page is located at that namespace. You could petition to move the page to Gulja (not Kuldja) but personally I'd be against it. If the city is known as anything else in English, thanks to the Russo-Chinese incidents over it in the 19th century it's still Ili and not either of present ones. That said, a modern American or British traveler in 'Shinjang' looking for 'Gulja' would be reading guidebooks and talking to each other about 'Xinjiang' and 'Yining'.  — LlywelynII 09:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Massacre

no mention of the gulja massacre????

It's Wikipedia. You could find some reliable sources and add it yourself.  — LlywelynII 09:43, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

ENGVAR

Per this edit, the usage of the page was established as American English. Kindly maintain it consistently.  — LlywelynII 09:57, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Relevant Ngrams

Google Ngram results of Ghulja, Gulja, Khulja, Kuldzha, Kulja, and Qulja – transliterations of the Uyghur and Kazakh names for the city. Ghulja is the most used in English-language literature by a large margin, followed by Kulja; the other variants appear much less frequently. In Chinese literature, the Kazakh transliteration Kulja is used the most, historically by a significant margin. Yue🌙 22:19, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

And of course, Yining trumps them all. Yue🌙 22:20, 24 October 2025 (UTC)

Nah hemmy, go back to the old naming of Khobak Sari and embrace the Dzungar Khanate!!!!111!!!! /j The Khan of the universe and the Hoofed animals (Please don't click this) 13:19, 27 February 2026 (UTC)