Talk:Yehezkel Chazom

Hebrew in infobox

It was suggested that a talk page discussion be initiated just to add the hebrew original text beneath the english for this person. This is pretty standard fare, but if we really think this is controversial or in need of discussion then here it is. As for "it is already in the lead line", if that is a rebuttal to be expected, I would say that it is standard across hundreds of thousands of biographical articles for there to be both when a foreign language original is used. I am not sure if MOS offers guidance on this one way or the other, but I know from personal experience to have at least viewed that tens of thousands of times. If there is a specific MOS requirement, then I will follow that of course, but if this is just preference, then for one prefer for the hebrew to be in both the infobox and the lead. That is not "messy" or too much for a standard reader to see on the pages where a bi-lingual version may exist in just those two places of an article (with English of course being the only usage in all later uses of the name of a bio in the same article). Iljhgtn (talk) 00:14, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

What is the MOS that says put in the foreign-language name? GiantSnowman 19:14, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

What is the MOS that says leave it out? Iljhgtn (talk) 18:53, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

That's not how it works. GiantSnowman 19:24, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Where is the MOS guidance on including it or not, it is on hundreds of thousands of BLP and biographical infoboxes that are foreign language first. Iljhgtn (talk) 19:41, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. GiantSnowman 19:43, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is an essay, neither a policy or a guideline, nor an MOS rule.

Including a single foreign language instance mentioned in the lead (and infobox) is constructive and helpful to a page where the subject has a name in a foreign language. This also helps in terms of MOS:Accessibility.

See:

MOS:NON-ENG

MOS:OTHERLANG

MOS:FOREIGNEQUIV Iljhgtn (talk) 20:05, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

OK, where/how does any of those links you've dumped here help? GiantSnowman 20:49, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

Don't be rude. Stop that right this instant. I will seek guidance at the MOS level and we can solve for this with consensus if it is not clearly spelled out (which I was asking for your help with). Iljhgtn (talk) 22:17, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

You are invited to contribute here, Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section#non-English_language_guidance_for_infobox Iljhgtn (talk) 22:27, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

A discussion centralised is welcome - please do NOT continue to add whilst the discussion is ongoing, that is disruptive. GiantSnowman 09:02, 1 March 2025 (UTC)